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Old 24-09-09, 10:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: What are the dangers of over springing?

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Spring rate too soft for nearly everyone...
Therefore, it would seem to lead to the conclusion for the OP that, if you can't get it right, slight overspringing is better than underspringing.

The key issue then being that the rear end won't squat as much on cornering, acceleration or over bumps.
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Old 24-09-09, 10:10 PM   #12
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Default Re: What are the dangers of over springing?

But a little bit of wallow is better than a big bit of highside if it pings over a ripple cranked over.

OK set a gauge length somewhere, like from swingarm bobbin to grabrail, say this is 300mm with suspension fully unloaded, then with weight of bike it might be 290mm and with rider aboard it might be 270mm

This would mean your bike sag is 10mm and total sag is 30mm.
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Old 24-09-09, 10:12 PM   #13
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The key issue then being that the rear end won't squat as much on cornering, acceleration or over bumps.
Warning!! racing talk approaching

I have a little feeling that may have contributed to my off (Seggons where is that video) I think the suspension was compressed, then mid bend hit a low spot in the road which extended & compressed the rear end in a very short space of time, causing the rear to let go momenterily

Yeah, that's what happened, It wasn't me riding like a ***
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Old 24-09-09, 10:16 PM   #14
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Default Re: What are the dangers of over springing?

But good suspension can let you get away with being a muppet to some degree, which is ace.
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Old 24-09-09, 10:21 PM   #15
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But good suspension can let you get away with being a muppet to some degree, which is ace.
That's what I want, idiot suspension to go with my idiot tyres
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Default Re: What are the dangers of over springing?

Or you could keep the naff suspension and buy better leathers instead lol.
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Therefore, it would seem to lead to the conclusion for the OP that, if you can't get it right, slight overspringing is better than underspringing.
lets say you have 3 springs, 425-450-475# spring. 450 is ideal for you but somebody stole it. Personally I would use 425. if I have to use 475 I would set it with less preload. softer will absorb bumps better and give more grip at tire.
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lets say you have 3 springs, 425-450-475# spring. 450 is ideal for you but somebody stole it. Personally I would use 425. if I have to use 475 I would set it with less preload. softer will absorb bumps better and give more grip at tire.


But how do work out what is right?
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Stock for pointy is about 430 I think.

Racetech will give you a guess, but it is a ballpark figure.
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But how do work out what is right?
suspension shops know what is right.
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