Everybody lets be a bit honest

sometimes all you need is one reply to make you see sense/feel better/feel normal.
there are time when talking to strangers helps and who knows what everyone can offer in life skills or training

should it be here - like Fizz says why not if it don't break the rule
its likes a TV programme you don't like switch it off - don't sit and endure it just to complain about it.

as for helplines who honestly knows in this day and age who is the best to turn to.
would you seriously consider phoning the samaritans over a relationship breakup - you hurt but you would considere your self depressed.
sometimes its easier to post to a bunch of people with a common interest( and not necessairly those of the other party) who you trust to answer honestly.
its the way of the world these days i'm afraid no-one wants to talk as many don't know how to express feelings ( and first advice is normally write it down)

If i can help i always will thats just my nature, i read, not always post but accept that this person hurts and needs help.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Fizz and Hindle, Yes but in every situation you are only hearing one side of the story and not the full circumstances Please try and understand where I am coming from.

I know that.

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

It just seems unfair that the other party can't give their version or reasons for their actions.

It is, but life is unfair isnt it. Its something that we all have to deal with everyday.

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

You are trying to make a constructive opinion and give advice with half a story which isn't always correct.There is always two sides to a story and then the truth

I know that. All I was doing was offering my thoughts, The OP asked for help and advice and I gave the best that I could judged on the situation as I read it.

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

By all means pour as much sympathy as you want but sympathy does not sort the problem or give an answer.

Indeed not. But it can be the start of the journey to solve the problem. Simply feeling like you arent on your own can sometimes just be enough to get you going on the road to recovery again.

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Fizz and Hindle, Yes but in every situation you are only hearing one side of the story and not the full circumstances Please try and understand where I am coming from.
It just seems unfair that the other party can't give their version or reasons for their actions. You are trying to make a constructive opinion and give advice with half a story which isn't always correct.There is always two sides to a story and then the truth
By all means pour as much sympathy as you want but sympathy does not sort the problem or give an answer.

true -and i do understand so does that mean we should not post any media related, you tube videos for discussion as we are not fully aware of ALL sides the story.
in life you very rarely get two sides and sometimes you post looking for someone just to say - thats alright you will feel like that. Never assume that someone wants a definative answer as that will normally not what they are looking for.

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

I have been flamed and agreed with over my recent comments over a different generations behavior on here,mostly people who are just starting on the journey of life and finding their feet-----we have all stumbled at some time.
But this is not just the SV650org its the internet open to billions of people and things posted can be read by anybody and possibly related back to partners ,friends or family. Not necessarily a nice way for the second party to find out about their private life being discussed by people they don't know. It is not just the person making the post you should consider.
I appreciate that times change and todays generation may want to be more open,alas it is not just todays generation that reads the internet therefore if you post a private and personal subject and get a bit of criticism for your actions surely this has got to be expected if you chose to bare your soul
I don't condone how the younger generation think or act just that being years older than them I also consider how the topic will be addressed and received by others.
I hope this makes my actions a little clearer.

I wouldn't worry too much. There have been criticisms of individuals made by other orgers who are the same age.

The generation thing no doubt does emerge in some discussions - our parents no doubt dispaired at some of things we 'oldies' did. Hell's teeth, at 20 I did things I now look back on and cringe, e.g. going down the main street in Ambleside, with no baffle in, at 50mph, without a helmet after the helmet law came in. - and there's way worse.

Equally I wouldn't dream of saying to the youngsters of today they should do x,y,z unless they were way beyond the pale. Its part of growing up, and good luck to them, let them enjoy that experience.

My view is be there to help them if something goes wrong.

Anyhow I have stated my case,the jury will decide, but I abide by my principles over
privacy and consideration for others

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Anyhow I have stated my case,the jury will decide, but I abide by my principles over
privacy and consideration for others

Nowt wrong with that.

I have no problem with people who put up honest and meaningful posts and actually want advice or help. I've done it in the past and it can be a good way of getting advice that you may not of thought of. However, I do think there are many, many threads that pop up just because people want attention. It's not the end of the world and like others have said, you can choose not to read it. Maybe I am getting old and grumpy too!

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by DanAbnormal

I have no problem with people who put up honest and meaningful posts and actually want advice or help. I've done it in the past and it can be a good way of getting advice that you may not of thought of. However, I do think there are many, many threads that pop up just because people want attention. It's not the end of the world and like others have said, you can choose not to read it. Maybe I am getting old and grumpy too!

Bus pass reqd????

Without the Org i would not have had some very good advice from people who can give an unbiased view. Nor other peoples experiences which might give me more insight into things that are happening to me.
So what is Idle Banter for if not to discuss anything you like or need to get off your chest.
Hell lets get really angry and say that noone should have written anything about what happened to Hovis or how we all felt.
I better stop now before I start a proper rant!
Bah humbug, moan, whinge, groan, sigh.
Ste

Yet again, I have no idea what a thread is on about...can you point to the offending thread?


How about in future, if we rant about something on here, we at least have the decency to put a link up to the thread in the first place to avoid confusion?