Rossi vs. Lorezno

[Biker Biggles]

Id like to see VR go independant like Kenny Roberts.(maybe join KR?)His reputation could be enough to generate the sponsorship required to develope a GP bike from scratch.

Suzuki were rubbish this year.

No expense spent. Rossi is only going to join a winning team and that ain't Suzuki.

He is just playing. Maybe using the Ducati offer the same way Lorenzo did.

Another Yamaha team would sort it out.

I can see Rossi at Ducati but only for the money. I don't think he would fit there.

[dyzio]

Originally Posted by Lissa

I could easily see Rossi moving to Ducati now Livio Suppo has left the team!

Why?

Originally Posted by The Basket

Another Yamaha team would sort it out.

It wouldn't though - the reason Rossi is apparently miffed is because he feels he developed the bike and now Yamaha are letting one of his fiercest rivals compete against him using the machine. If Yamaha create a new team for either of them, it's still the same thing.

[Supervox]

I have seen a quote somewhere along the lines of "he couldn't develop a roll of film, let alone a bike".

Vale is notoriously tough & demanding on those he works with - he doesn't exactly demand but just expects 110% all the time - the mitigating factor is that he demands exactly the same of himself.

I have no doubt that Vale sees Lorenzo as a threat on the track - but that he feels a percentage of this success is due to his development of the bike & therefore 'undeserved'.

IIRC the only teamate with whom he's had a good working relationship is Colin Edwards - a rider who he considers to be the best development rider in the paddock & someone who shreas his work ethic.

IMO whether Rossi stays or goes elsewhere is ultimately dependant on whether Jerry Burgess could also be persuaded to move - I don't believe that Vale would go anywhere without him.

Originally Posted by Supervox

I have seen a quote somewhere along the lines of "he couldn't develop a roll of film, let alone a bike".

Who does "HE" refer to?

Originally Posted by merlin427

Who does "HE" refer to?

I'm guessing Lorenzo, although I wouldn't dare speculate as to whether it's a true statement or not. The only people who know how good a rider is at developing a bike are the rider and his engineers.

Originally Posted by carty

I'm guessing Lorenzo, although I wouldn't dare speculate as to whether it's a true statement or not. The only people who know how good a rider is at developing a bike are the rider and his engineers.

I guessed that initially too but the content of the mail seemed to indicate that VR was wrong to feel miffed that Lorenzo had the advangage of riding a bike which Rossi had developed as he was not capable of this. Perhaps I have miss-understood (won't be the first time).

I think VR has a point but it is also true that he gets paid more then Lorenzo partly because of this. Someone else has to ride the other Yamaha's and he can't seriously expect Yamaha only to give them to second rate riders. Can he?

I've indicated in a couple of previous post that Lorenzo needs to put his money where his mouth is, if he thinks he is as good as Rossi he should go and prove it by going to another team (as Rossi did from Honda to Yamaha). Then we'll know whether he is simply a fantastic racer or the full package. Mind you I'd be happy just to be a fantastic racer! (or even a mediocre racer for that matter)

[Lissa]

Originally Posted by dyzio

Why?

Because Rossi and Suppo aren't exactly the best of friends.

Vito Guareschi on the other hand, is a mate of his!

Originally Posted by Supervox

the only teamate with whom he's had a good working relationship is Colin Edwards - a rider who he considers to be the best development rider in the paddock & someone who shreas his work ethic.

Colin Edwards not a world champ threat so he could be nice to Colin