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Old 02-12-09, 10:46 PM   #11
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They did this on top gear YEARS ago

And 5th gear, they ran a merc on it with no noticeable difference.
Take a look at diesel, then cooking oil, bit of a difference, wouldnt put it in my vehicles, even though it probably work ok.
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Old 02-12-09, 10:49 PM   #12
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Don't think it's illegal though
Highly illegal, as your not paying the duty. If you pay the duty its not illegal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2312521.stm
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Old 02-12-09, 10:50 PM   #13
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I've heard that it can bugger up the seals etc in the injector pump but i'm not sure if that is when its been mixed with ethanol or not.
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Old 02-12-09, 10:50 PM   #14
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I knew a guy that had his 4x4 converted to run on chip fat oil. The local chippy used to pay him to take it away. Although he did declare it and had to pay the appropriate duty.
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Old 02-12-09, 10:51 PM   #15
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It is technically 'illegal' iirc any 'consumable' used as a fuel should have the duty calculated and paid to the excise folks (tho if im wrong please do say so)
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Old 02-12-09, 10:52 PM   #16
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Mate of my sister used to drive an old merc ran on chip shop pan oil mixed with diesel. Car stank.
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Old 02-12-09, 10:53 PM   #17
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Highly illegal, as your not paying the duty. If you pay the duty its not illegal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2312521.stm
i think that's out of date. i'm sure the law has changed.
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Old 02-12-09, 10:56 PM   #18
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Not illegal, I looked into using veg oil as fuel when I got the Disco last year.

You can use something daft like 2500 litres before having to pay duty on it as fuel (and you'll need to be able to prove it)

And at about 25-30mpg on the Disco that's roughly 15,000 miles.

You can bang it straight in the tank but it behaves differently in varying temperatures so not great when it gets cold as it thickens and might not burn correctly leaving you with deposits clinging around your system.

The best thing to do is get a kit (like this http://www.dieselveg.com/) , start the car from a smaller replacment diesel tank in the car somewhere and then switch to veg oil when it's been heated up. The veg oil should really be filtered down to a certain thickness (in microns or something)

You can use SVO (Straight veg oil) or WVO (waste veg oil) or bio diesel which is something different again and come in varying % where the % is how much of the fuel is bio as opposed to diesel.

E.g. Some Morrisons sell 95 bio-diesel, where it is 95% diesel 5% bio but these can also contain anti foaming agents which can cloh up your injectors

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I never got around to doing it because the effort involved in collecting/buying enough veg oil to fill an 85 litre tank at least once a week far outweighed the benefit. So instead I drive the Civic to work and Cheryl uses the Disco to potter around in or when we go off roading


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Running on veg oil is supposed to be better for the engine, better lubricant and pretty much carbon neutral.... Apparantly. I like the idea of it but just too much hassle doing it. Nowhere around here for bio-diesel either so can't try that and to go to the nearest place would again cost me more to run the car to go out of my way to fill it up just to pay the same price (or more) than normal diesel.

Go figure, aren'/t we supposed to be making everything greener, I might invest in a field and grow rapeseed
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Old 02-12-09, 10:57 PM   #19
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i think that's out of date. i'm sure the law has changed.
This is britain we are talking about lol, they would never change if for the better lol


http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...ument#P20_2550
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it's all a bit complicated
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...ument#P10_1054
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