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Old 07-01-10, 10:48 AM   #11
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No. Portable road sign, similar style to a roadworks one, only printed with "Road Closed" on. Red with white border (other than covered is snow so barely legible ).
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It's part of the TSRGD and to pass beyond it would constitute an offence under the Road Traffic Act
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Old 07-01-10, 12:25 PM   #12
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Old 09-01-10, 01:02 AM   #13
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IIRC if it's like this:



It's part of the TSRGD and to pass beyond it would constitute an offence under the Road Traffic Act
I managed to find something else on another site indicating the same, and that it was a fixed £30 fine for ignoring it if caught. Obviously could cause some interesting discussions with insurers in the case of a claim.

Also interestingly, the local rag today stated the road was closed on Tuesday evening but re-open by Wednesday morning. That would indicate that when I passed along it on Wednesday evening, the road was actually open and the signs hadn't been removed.

Wonder how the hell you're supposed to know what the actual situation is in such cases.
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Old 09-01-10, 02:10 AM   #14
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It probably, is illegal. If you do this:
http://welshpitbikes.19.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=124
however, it is highly unlikely the police will be able to catch you as:
A) You will be considerably faster than any ground vehicle they have.
B) Choppers are likely to be grounded in this weather for trivial stuff like going down closed roads.

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Old 09-01-10, 11:02 AM   #15
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We used to suffer a road closed sign at my dads. only problem being it was the only road to/from his house. first year there he had to get a local farmer to tow him home. Thereafter he had a garage installed at his office and bought a landrover to go to work.
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Old 09-01-10, 11:25 AM   #16
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I managed to find something else on another site indicating the same, and that it was a fixed £30 fine for ignoring it if caught. Obviously could cause some interesting discussions with insurers in the case of a claim.

Also interestingly, the local rag today stated the road was closed on Tuesday evening but re-open by Wednesday morning. That would indicate that when I passed along it on Wednesday evening, the road was actually open and the signs hadn't been removed.

Wonder how the hell you're supposed to know what the actual situation is in such cases.
Pretty sure the Police have powers to temporarily close a road for operational reasons, they won't have time to advertise it in the papers and the fact there's a road closed sign is what tells you there's a road closure in effect...
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Old 09-01-10, 11:29 AM   #17
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I've been using closed roads all week, its either that or 2 to 3 hour diversions.

I class them as closed to incompetent drivers.

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Old 09-01-10, 12:27 PM   #18
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Pretty sure the Police have powers to temporarily close a road for operational reasons, they won't have time to advertise it in the papers and the fact there's a road closed sign is what tells you there's a road closure in effect...
You miss the point. The road had been closed due to drifting snow, but no-one had moved the signs when it was re-opened after being ploughed.
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Old 09-01-10, 12:37 PM   #19
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You miss the point. The road had been closed due to drifting snow, but no-one had moved the signs when it was re-opened after being ploughed.
You seem to be missing my point... Perhaps there was reason to keep it closed? I dunno, I'm not attempting to figure out the logic of your LA...

I'm saying that using the road while the Road Closed sign is there can still constitute an offence under the RTA, doesn't matter if the road was clear or not, doesn't matter if the closure was advertised, doesn't matter if the closure was backed up by a traffic order issued by your LA. The fact the the road sign is there and was placed by a police officer is enough for the offence to have been committed - even if the chances of a prosecution are minimal if it was left in error...
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If you're in a grown ups 4x4 with decent tyres on then ignore it. But make sure you've got a shovel, some grit and warm kit as you'll feel a right pillock if you get stuck.

Never mind the safety reasons there's never anyone up there anyway.
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