Sack him, or keep him?

Originally Posted by specialone

80 mph in a 70mph, bit over the top.
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Surely if the NIP says 80, in reality his speedo was reading more than this?

I would wait and see what happens with the NIP. See if the court is leanient. I guess you have to work out the cost of sorting his transport (whether it be buses, taxis, someone picking him up etc) VS the amount to train up another engineer.

What industry is this in if you don't mind me asking?

Ultimately the decision is yours. However there is only so many chances you can give someone and he seems to have used them all up.

My brother was caught speeding and given a 30 day ban. His employer fired him no questions asked. He knew the job required a licence and they weren't going to wait even a month. Harsh but thats the reality nowadays.

[Mej]

just make him pay for transport or deduct it from his wages. thats what i would do.

Depending how long his ban is, if he does get a ban, and you want to keep him:

- dock his pay to cover the cost of transport needed for him (need his consent)
- Ask him to use his holiday to cover part of the ban
- Give him a job in the office (don't know if this is possible)
- tell him it is his own fault, and he will need to cover the cost of getting between jobs himself.

If you happen to have a trainee that can drive a van or someone that doesn't do much in the office, then the problem is solved.


Ste.

[maviczap]

Keep him
But make him pay for a driving course that teaches him not to speed, something like AIM and of course pay for for the cost of his transport for the duration of the ban
By the sounds of it, he thinks that you're going to back him up again when it comes to court.

[Viney]

Laugh and point at him...lots! What a fool. However, i have been there i had 11 points on my licence at one point and i drove like i was driving Miss daisy for a couple of years!!

Sadly its a fact that everyone speeds, he just seems unlucky that its him. If he has a company van, get it goverened to 56mph for his own good!

What would i do? Give him a desk based job for the length of the ban and he can be on call for the other, lesser, engineers. After a period in the office, he may think agin about speeding Get him to make the Coffee and tea as well as punishment.

Id keep him as financailly you'd be better off.

I feel that some company sanction is in order. If the ban is short (e.g. a month) then suspend him until he can drive again.

If longer ban than tough choice to be made. Your call.

My heart says keep him but I would definately push for a disciplinary ( the hardest possible) He's not learned from the last time and what harm does this do to firms reputation etc etc etc Yiou need to think outside of the box and not just look at employees. This may make him learn the hard way.

however you could find yourself in dodgy territory if the the job role states that a licence is an essential part of holding that job - normally means that he is are no longer to competent to complete the job required and that he is contracted to do. The other guys could kick up a stink
You are not legally bound to find him transport thats his problem and thats what my first recation would be. If he's commited he'll will make an effort but be willing to help if comes to you saying its a problem (you will need to say this to him as they won't do it otherwise and could escalate into more discplinary)
What and see what the penalty is.You need to sit down with him and discuss it the whole implications.

I do believe however you have answered your own question

[Drew Carey]

I would give him the choice. Can you not say to him;

1. Keep your job, cover the cost of your own transport during the ban, last chance, once more and your out.

2. If you don't wish to do the above, then by all means....there's the door.

If the driving is a required part of his job he needs to learn the result of his actions (whether the amount he was over is small or not is irrelevant....he was speeding).