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Old 08-06-10, 08:43 PM   #11
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Terrible design!
Fully enclose the bike, especially that troublesome radiator.

Evaporative heat transfer doesn't half cool it down, and the hotter it runs the faster it must be, right?
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Old 08-06-10, 08:50 PM   #12
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Terrible design!
Fully enclose the bike, especially that troublesome radiator.

Evaporative heat transfer doesn't half cool it down, and the hotter it runs the faster it must be, right?
Brilliant!

Err... Maybe not.
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Old 08-06-10, 09:49 PM   #13
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how is it good design?

IMO yeah it is bad design, if the mud guard did more than give the front wheel a fringe, for example if it were long enough to reduce the spray onto the front plug it might also be long enough to reduce the spray onto the front header pipe, and head for that matter. You reduce the spray you reduce the water contact on hot surface you reduce the steam. I can appreciate that your never going to irradicate the steam all together but with better design it could be reduced.
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Old 08-06-10, 10:24 PM   #14
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Who can remember Kawasaki 2-stroke triples that used to seize the middle pot until the factory designed a new shorter front mudguard?
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Old 08-06-10, 10:50 PM   #15
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Who can remember Kawasaki 2-stroke triples that used to seize the middle pot until the factory designed a new shorter front mudguard?
sorry lozzo mate i wasnt born in 1807 but agree with your point







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Old 09-06-10, 04:18 AM   #16
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ok ok. I first asked my m8 if he's GSXR had a similiar problem which he says he doesn't and thats why i posted in the first place. As for the question in bad design. You would think that only a minimul amount of water would be allowed to get onto hot engine components. My bike steams and steams even after ending my journey which would suggest a fair bit of water is either continually dripping onto something or laying somewhere boiling away. I only thought that this was a minor issue which could be minimised by fenda extenders or some cover ect.
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Old 09-06-10, 07:41 AM   #17
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It's a good idea to fit a fender extender anyway, if it reduces steam then that is just incidental. Having 2 working cylinders is more important.


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IMO yeah it is bad design, if the mud guard did more than give the front wheel a fringe, for example if it were long enough to reduce the spray onto the front plug it might also be long enough to reduce the spray onto the front header pipe, and head for that matter. You reduce the spray you reduce the water contact on hot surface you reduce the steam. I can appreciate that your never going to irradicate the steam all together but with better design it could be reduced.
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Agreed about the front plug issue, but at a standstill you still get a load of water dripping off the rest of the bike down onto the engine which steams off. And while moving you're not going to stop spray getting onto the radiator and rest of it.
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Old 09-06-10, 07:43 AM   #18
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Who can remember Kawasaki 2-stroke triples that used to seize the middle pot until the factory designed a new shorter front mudguard?
lol, Preston beat me too it with the old guy hit but no sorry lozzo i dont, and with out specifics I cant even google it to see which one your refering too.

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Agreed about the front plug issue, but at a standstill you still get a load of water dripping off the rest of the bike down onto the engine which steams off. And while moving you're not going to stop spray getting onto the radiator and rest of it.
too true, thats what I'd consider as unavoidable though thats the same steam you'd get on any unfaired bike. Thinking about it I didnt even consider the naked version they must steam like a kettle!
The curvy chimneys all its steam up though between the upper fairings so you sit at the lights in the rain with a plume of steam rising up in front of your face (brilliant for steaming up the visor that little bit more).

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Old 09-06-10, 08:05 AM   #19
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Who can remember Kawasaki 2-stroke triples that used to seize the middle pot until the factory designed a new shorter front mudguard?
However the middle pot would cut out every time it rained.
Mine did that every downpour. It was ok to get home on, but the journey was always worried by the fact a second pot may go out as well, and with just one pot it was all it could do just to keep the engine turning over.

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Old 09-06-10, 12:27 PM   #20
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Not as daft a question as it sounds - in the rain my SV steams like a bloody train compared to my old er5, which hardly smoked at all - even when it was p*ssing it down!

bloomin SV will steam even if you spit on it (ok slight exaggeration - but you get the point )
The only time an ER5 should smoke is when you do the decent thing and set fire to it.
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