Rear luggage systems for Gladius - need more ideas!

Originally Posted by Tox

Mr uk1 - it's the rack that has the restriction. The box (V46) can take 10kg but no good if the rack underneath it can't, which is the problem here.

I've looked on eBay, trouble is this stuff is all pretty new. The most expensive item is the V35 panniers and they're only £5 cheaper on eBay as they're new - they're the only monokey pannier (and the only givi pannier specific to the Gladius!)

Mine was definitely the box that had the 3kg restriction, but it was a cheaper box than the V46. It was a mono-lock box not a mono-key so not double skinned plastic. The mono-lock stuff is cheaper than the mono-key stuff, but with disadvantages (carrying weight).

Edit - I had this one http://www.cmcbikes.com/givi-e450-simply-ii.html

I have a Tech 7 45 litre top box it can take 2 full face helmets and is totally water proof. It only cost £39 delivered. Comes with a lock too. i wouldn't waste my money on the expensive Givi stuff as this box does the job perfectly.

It isn't the cost of the box that's the problem!

It's difficult to tell from the internet pics, but it looks like the Gladius givi rack just replaces the grabrail the same as a renntecc rack does, which is why they quote a weight limit for the Gladius givi rack and do not for the SV. The renntecc rack has a 'recommended' carrying capacity, probably for Health & Safety reasons as it is only held on by the 2 bolts that would usually hold the grabrail. Peeps usually ignore it though

I've seen pictures of what happens when people ignore it

I want something that's within the manufacturer's recommendations if possible so it doesn't snap.

Originally Posted by Tox

I've seen pictures of what happens when people ignore it

I want something that's within the manufacturer's recommendations if possible so it doesn't snap.

You may need to compromise then on a) being able to carry x kgs and b) it being secure when you get there so you can leave it on the bike

What are you planning on carrying in a top box etc? I think the limit for the Renntecc rack is 2.5kg, but I usually carry approx 5kg. Bearing in mind that if the same 2 bolts that hold the grab rail can handle the force of a pillion pushing down on it or the rail being used to manhandle it off the paddock stand without breaking they can handle an additional 2.5kgs of weight on a rack.

I obviously wouldn't suggest exceeding the weight limit by loads and carrying an engine on it or summat

Originally Posted by MR UKI (1)

You may need to compromise then on a) being able to carry x kgs and b) it being secure when you get there so you can leave it on the bike

I may do, but I'm sure that there must be a way to carry more, I've seen bikes loaded up and they can all be flouting the recommendations so much (I guess other bikes have different limits though). I'm sure I haven't found all the options (one more below for starters). What options do I have if I don't want it so secure?

Originally Posted by MR UKI (1)

What are you planning on carrying in a top box etc?

Camping and walking stuff as per my OP!

Originally Posted by MR UKI (1)

Bearing in mind that if the same 2 bolts that hold the grab rail can handle the force of a pillion pushing down on it or the rail being used to manhandle it off the paddock stand without breaking they can handle an additional 2.5kgs of weight on a rack.

True, but in the pictures I've seen of racks breaking, it's the rack that breaks, not the bolts that shear. Although I'd rather the rack break than the bolts as that's easier to replace!


I've just discovered that the SW Motech EVO side carrier (specific for the Gladius) can take 12.5 kg per carrier. It also has adapter plates for a whole stack of different luggage (Givi monokey, TraX alu-box, Kappa, Shad, Hepco-Becker, Krauser) and with any luck I can find one that's cheaper than the Givi V35 pannier pair and so comes in under budget.

See here and here

It's typical that I can search for days and as soon as I write it all down and post it up for advice I find a better option!! :-S

It's going to ultimately depend on how much you want to spend really isn't it and whether you really need the stuff to be securely left on the bike if you leave it somewhere and whether you are prepared to slightly ignore weight limits or not.

I have the following, but then I don't usually leave the bike parked up with the gear attached for anything more than 15 mins and have only been for max 4 days away:

Baglux Tankbag - 30 litres
Oxford Tailpack - 45 litres
Renntecc rack with an 80 litre roll bag

In all that I carry, sleeping bag (and it doesn't fold down small either), 4 man tent, airbed, footpump, clothes/pair of trainers, toiletries, stove (with gas bottles), pan, cutlery, cup, kettle, big camera and other odds and sods.

The rack only has 5kg max on it, being the tent and poles. Airbed, pump, cooking stuff and stove in the tailbag, the rest in the tankbag.

The Ventura stuff might be good depending on the weight limits they stipulate, but the bag wouldn't be secure. If you don't carry a pillion, with the Ventura stuff you could have the Ventura bag on the pillion seat and then use the rack to put a roll bag on (if weight limits allow). If you wanted an element of this secure, check these guys out (just to throw something else in the mix!) http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php...n=activityList

I've seen peeps leave 2 sets of leathers and boots in the pacsafe stuff sack and locked it to the bike in the middle of Northwich for the Thundersprint before now and leave it there all day.

As you have found most, read all racks and boxes seem to have a limit of 5kg, i'm sure most break that rule, ask yc.

Originally Posted by bluefishman

As you have found most, read all racks and boxes seem to have a limit of 5kg, i'm sure most break that rule, ask yc.

See posts 12 and 17 here :

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...renntec&page=2