SV650.org - SV650 & Gladius 650 Forum



Idle Banter For non SV and non bike related chat (and the odd bit of humour - but if any post isn't suitable it'll get deleted real quick).
There's also a "U" rating so please respect this. Newbies can also say "hello" here too.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 18-09-10, 01:02 PM   #11
Dave20046
Member
Mega Poster
 
Dave20046's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 10,274
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

I can't remember if you hover over the wireless symbol on windows 7 (ascending bars) whether it tells you the connection speed or not, worth a try, if not google it or you could download a free tool. Infact you may just double click on it. anyway you're after where it tells you the speed of the link between you machine and the router. If it's a recentish laptop I'd image the wifi adaptor will be up to scratch but ye never know.

The router's not under a telly or anything is it? Is it a newish sky box?
__________________

Last edited by Dave20046; 18-09-10 at 01:05 PM.
Dave20046 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-10, 01:30 PM   #12
Luckypants
Moderator
Mega Poster
 
Luckypants's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nr Ruthin
Posts: 7,079
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geodude View Post
Dont know if this helps but i had slow down issues similar to yours and i changed the adsl filter and connection worked perfectly again.
Changing the ADSL filter would only help if the problem was with crosstalk between the data spectrum and voice spectrum of the frequencies sent over your phone line. This only affects synch speed, the raw speed the router links to the telephone speed at. We have established that synch speed is not the issue here. (See OP and my previous post)

The problem seems to be with the wireless.
__________________
"Your Viffer sounds like it is raising hell! Spot on." - Witchery 17/4/08
Snow Plough Appreciation Society - Member #3

Luckypants is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-10, 01:42 PM   #13
Luckypants
Moderator
Mega Poster
 
Luckypants's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nr Ruthin
Posts: 7,079
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluepete View Post
Channel change seems to have helped, but during the test, the download shoots up to 5.0ish, then drops to 0.0 for a second, then back up, then down, almost as if the wireless is dropping out or turning off for a second. Normal?

Pete
Pete there could be a whole raft of other issues connected to that, not least of which could be the speed the download is being served at the test site.

For the moment I would advise you leave things as they are and use the connection normally. If you see that you get these drops in speed randomly while generally surfing, then there is a further problem with the internet connection. If this is the case, try changing the router wi-fi channel again to be further away from the original. There is significant overlap in channel frequencies so moving only one channel away may improve but not cure the problem. Common channels are 1,6 and 9 - many routers have these set as default. The worst channel to be on in a busy wi-fi area is 1, as this is the BT Home Hub default channel. If many neighbours have a BT Home Hub, try selecting a channel in the range 9-11 to avoid interference from other home wi-fi networks.

If you want to be more scientific about choosing your channel, get something like NetStumbler to find all the wi-fi in range and check the channels they are using, then choose one with the least networks on it.
__________________
"Your Viffer sounds like it is raising hell! Spot on." - Witchery 17/4/08
Snow Plough Appreciation Society - Member #3

Luckypants is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-10, 02:23 PM   #14
Bluepete
Member
Mega Poster
 
Bluepete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ex motorcyclist
Posts: 1,961
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Cheers all, now on channel 12, inSSIDer works Mike, but NetStumbler won't recognise my card. No other networks are anywhere near ours, so I'll wait and see how it goes!

Pete
Bluepete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-10, 03:52 PM   #15
600+
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

sometimes changing the channel can fix things. The intermittent speed you get on the new channel could mean you need to try a different channel to sort it out 100%
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-10, 04:23 PM   #16
Sudoxe
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluepete View Post
Cheers all, now on channel 12, inSSIDer works Mike, but NetStumbler won't recognise my card. No other networks are anywhere near ours, so I'll wait and see how it goes!

Pete
It's not just other WIFI networks that can interfere, anything in the 2.4ghz band (i.e. cordless phones, radio control toys, baby monitors, etc...) can also cause interference.

Dan
  Reply With Quote
Old 19-09-10, 09:46 AM   #17
Geodude
Member
Mega Poster
 
Geodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Durham
Posts: 2,676
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckypants View Post
Changing the ADSL filter would only help if the problem was with crosstalk between the data spectrum and voice spectrum of the frequencies sent over your phone line. This only affects synch speed, the raw speed the router links to the telephone speed at. We have established that synch speed is not the issue here. (See OP and my previous post)

The problem seems to be with the wireless.
So whats this crosstalk thingy then? my connection is wired and can range from 0.04mb to 22mb in connection speed using speedtest.net at different times of the day and somtimes pages time out because its on off on off. Had lines checked and there fine. sorry for hijack BP
__________________
Black naked 1999 sv650 which im trying to keep happy
Custom paintwork Saragon Customs Spray painting

Electrical fault finding guide and Regulator rectifier test

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
Geodude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-09-10, 10:29 PM   #18
Luckypants
Moderator
Mega Poster
 
Luckypants's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nr Ruthin
Posts: 7,079
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

The frequency ranges that can be sent down a phone line are very wide, a lot of which are inaudible and so useless for carrying speech so the ADSL technology use these frequencies to carry data. Now the frequencies close to the point where speech and data meet can interfere with each other, so the ADSL filter you fit splits these up to prevent this interference / crosstalk. Only voice frequencies should go to a phone device and only data should go to your router.

If this was occurring you would have a permanently bad connection, not intermittent as your report. I would venture that a slow download speed at certain times of the day is caused by data congestion at your exchange, rather than filter failure (leading to crosstalk). The thing to check is what speed your router says it is synch'd at when you suffer the slowdown / timeouts. It will probably still be synch'd at 22Mbps, but you just cannot get that throughput.
__________________
"Your Viffer sounds like it is raising hell! Spot on." - Witchery 17/4/08
Snow Plough Appreciation Society - Member #3

Luckypants is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-10, 09:34 AM   #19
Geodude
Member
Mega Poster
 
Geodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Durham
Posts: 2,676
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Cheers for the explaination mike, it makes a bit more sense now.
__________________
Black naked 1999 sv650 which im trying to keep happy
Custom paintwork Saragon Customs Spray painting

Electrical fault finding guide and Regulator rectifier test

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
Geodude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-09-10, 03:20 PM   #20
Bluepete
Member
Mega Poster
 
Bluepete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ex motorcyclist
Posts: 1,961
Default Re: Helpwith slow internet downoad speed

Fixed it!

Turns out, my netbook has a dual bluetooth/wifi card. The drivers for the bluetooth part were not installed or had failed and as I never use bluetooth, I didn't realise.

Took less than a minute to install and get up and running at good speeds!

Thanks for the suggestions though.

Pete
Bluepete is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why is my internet slow? -Ralph- Idle Banter 20 07-05-10 05:15 PM
IT Geeks - Slow internet andyb Idle Banter 0 17-04-10 06:03 PM
Got new internet security, and now internet is sooo slow neio79 Idle Banter 9 19-07-07 10:54 AM
slow internet tonight? kwak zzr Idle Banter 5 14-11-06 09:41 PM
Slow Internet Reckless Rat Idle Banter 7 23-08-06 10:19 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.