bike dead... stranded... save me!

The easiest way to see if the reg rec has died is to take the battery out. If the sides feel warped then the reg has cooked the battery. You'll be looking to replace the battery and the reg.....not a big job, just a pain in the ****. I'm on a new set every 18months.....it's almost a service item lol

Mine was fine one day then the next, after a spin out with lads, bust

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Originally Posted by The Hairy Hamish

The easiest way to see if the reg rec has died is to take the battery out. If the sides feel warped then the reg has cooked the battery.

This is not a reliable way of estimating regulator health, most, (not all, but most), regulator failures cause undercharging rather then overcharging.
It's overcharging that would cause the battery to exhibit the symptoms you describe.

Originally Posted by The Hairy Hamish

I'm on a new set every 18months.....it's almost a service item lol

I think you need to use better quality components or possibly check your bike for some other problem. Such items should not fail with such regularity, even if SVs are slighty better known than the average bike for failing regs.

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Hey everyone, just a quick post tonsay appreciate the repilies - still on the welsh coast typing on iPhone but signal has been rare! Well signal at same time as not being badgered by the mrs lol. Only got to charge for 20 mins before havingto dash for train yesterday so I'll get it on tomorrow and go from there.. Just didn't want u all thinking I'd asked info and disappeared!

Ta
craig.

Ps so gutted being here and seeing all the roads I see a roadtrip coming on when back in business!

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right i'm back from the sticks and luckily for me it coincides with payday so i can actually get this sorted...

Put the bike on the charger (streetwise charger supplied with the bike) , it had about 4.5 hours and then as it was 1am i left it until the next day to not wake the neighbours with my attempts to fire it up.

Still the same - first couple starts it seems to turn the bike over, but then power seems to dim leading to the fast electrical ticking from the RHS of seat area...

The alarm did go a little crazy afterwards for 10 mins, hazards just kept flashing, wouldnt turn off with the fob and no my hazard switch wasn't on finally got the alarm to stop messing about and called it a night.

Was 4.5 hours long enough? i would have assumed that would be atleast sufficient to notice a difference so leads to me two thoughts

1) is the battery completely dead and will not take charge at all?
or
2) is the battery 'fine' and the problem lies elsewhere?

just that it would surprise me if the battery were to give in like that out of the blue and not hold charge - any people experienced the same? If its a straight up battery prob i'll get one ordered now and whack it in, just a shame to get one then find its something else on top

multimeter on order and i remember someone with a haynes for sale so going to get that on its way too!

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From that description it points strongly to the battery being dead. Yes they can die suddenly, depending on what happpens to the plates inside. Colder conditions will see it off very quickly.

4 or 5 hrs on any charger should put enough into it to start the bike successfully, if it won't then it hasn't taken the charge up and/or can't deliver the current required. Either way it sounds like it's had it.

Assuming there is no other obvious problem like corroded or loose terminals at the battery or the starter solenoid etc

The ideal way to convince yourself is to remove that battery and try starting it on a known good one, it's surprising the effects having a dead battery connected can have when trying to jump it from another good one so disconnect the old one.

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Could also check charging voltage and current leakage when you pop the new one in to see if you don't have a problem.

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battery and multimeter on its way from mdsbattery after seeing the other thread with batteryman et al.... batt price for a ytx12-bs was £41.54, supposedly rrp over 50 so good deal it seems.

here's hoping! Likely saturday morning will be d-day so i'll be back around then to boast success or be sobbing asking for more help

When mine packed in it was very much teh same symptoms (minus the alarm)
Must admit i didnt know that jumping with the dead battery connected would stop the ability to jump as that was something i couldnt do when my batery kicked the bucket.

I'd bet that everything will be fine on saturday.
Just remember to charge the battery over night (or 8 solid hours) on 1amp or else you'll not get the best performance out of the battery.
That's the advise I was given when mine packed in.

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its a no go but a little promising.

Turns over easily on new battery, just wont take - it actually did ONCE for a couple of seconds and stupidly i came off the throttle instead of opening and now 10 more tries later its a no go.

measured the battery leak with my shiny new multimeter - seems fine 0.01 or 0.02a with a datatool 3 on there so seems that the alarm is fine etc... old battery had pretty much had it - 12.0v once off the bike

oil level spot on the max now, any suggestions? wondering if the next step is to drain fuel and fill with fresh? It did get caught in heavy rain the night it died and the bike did take momentarily...

what does it involve regarding FI models? I've read posts about draining carb bowls etc but assuming its different - forgive me the haynes is on its way from amazon

and if it couldn't get any worse i've got a scooter from the younger days that i replaced the exhaust gasket on last night so i could get to work today without being deafened... not really worked, so deaf and somehow between work and home i've lost my numberplate

current transport sit of mr csd:
alfa gtv: sorned
sv650: poorly
peugeot speedfight: no plate and deafening
mountainbike: rear puncture
hush puppy express: fatigued and rusty, needs a recharge and generally rickety

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http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...ve+petrol+tank

sorry - guilty of the usual post before search so hold my hands up and it wont happen again :-p

can people confirm that a constant fuel priming will clear all old out once tank is off? any engine flooding or anything to be dealt with... and along with my post above any other ideas?

Cheers!