Plumbing question - toilet removal

[tigersaw]

Originally Posted by andrewsmith

it maybe lack of fall to the stack, or a massive jobbie lodged*

"20 years of massive jobbies I reckon

is it a single or shared soil vent?

No, its one of two stacks in the house. This one is just for the en-suite

The first port of call would be a set of rods and see if clearing it helps, after that poss taking the stack off and clearing it

I need to get the toilet out, hence my original question about sealing it back up. Taking the stack off? That sounds like trashing the house a bit

You wont have to take the stack out

Be careful with buying rods, you might struggle to get them round that bend.

Try the smaller spring like I suggested first, my spring is about 5 metres long so would reach downstairs.

It should clear down to the ground at least, if not there will be a rodding point outside which you can rod if the problem is further down the line.

I presume the other toilet drains ok ?

[tigersaw]

Originally Posted by specialone

You wont have to take the stack out

Be careful with buying rods, you might struggle to get them round that bend.

Try the smaller spring like I suggested first, my spring is about 5 metres long so would reach downstairs.

It should clear down to the ground at least, if not there will be a rodding point outside which you can rod if the problem is further down the line.

I presume the other toilet drains ok ?

Springs, you mean something like:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11325/...rain-Unblocker
or:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...C=RV-040510018

As I said, I think the problem is high up, since it happens if you leave it an hour or a day - if the stack was blocked down the bottom it would have drained down in a day and it would take a flush I would have thought.

No Idea where the foul drains go outside, I can only find the storm drains.

Yes, the other toilet/bathroom works fine, so I'm OK for number 2's, shame its got a bath and not a shower.

Yeah that type of thing, bit overkill maybe, I got mine from b&q I think, sure it was a tenner.
Is it a modern house ?
Have you got silver egg shaped covers on your patio anywhere outside?
These are rodding points btw.

Defo try the spring first, keep bringing it back up when you hit an obstacle to bring any sludge up.

[andrewsmith]

as special one said

but as a derailing side

[tigersaw]

Its about 1988 I think.
Not seen any covers as you describe no. Just several concrete ones about a foot round, but I know they are just the drains, not the foul. I dont think anyone in the close knows where the foul runs. We have a big common manhole for storm and drains.

I'll try B+Q its just down the road.

When I remove the toilet, If I dont fancy putting it back or it falls apart, (someone has kinda tiled it in), how do I block the poo pipe, is there a proper cap or something?

[dirtydog]

It looks like a push fit fitting at the point that you want to cap it (Cant properly tell fromn the pic though) off in your picture so if you do decide not to put the toilet back you'll need one of these
http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...hbutton=submit

if its not a pushfit then you'll need to cut the link pipe, preferably as close to the white pan connector as possible and fit a coupler (screwfix cat number 14551) and the socket plug

[tigersaw]

Originally Posted by dirtydog

It looks like a push fit fitting at the point that you want to cap it (Cant properly tell fromn the pic though) off in your picture so if you do decide not to put the toilet back you'll need one of these
http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...hbutton=submit

if its not a pushfit then you'll need to cut the link pipe, preferably as close to the white pan connector as possible and fit a coupler (screwfix cat number 14551) and the socket plug

They look the jobbies to seal up the jobbie pipe - thanks!

Do I need to bond them in, are they airtight/watertight enough? Or just some amalgamating tape round the join?

[dirtydog]

Shouldnt need anything on them just push it on/in

Only problem I've had with them is the seal sometimes gets a little compressed and its really easy to push it in but its still watertight