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Old 24-04-11, 05:01 PM   #11
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Default Re: North Wales welcomes 'safe' bikers

what if you stop for a break and an officer starts to give you the 'spiel' can you say 'no thanks' and walk off or tell him to mind his own business?

or if you are driving within speed limit and are 'lawful' and they decide to pull you over for a 'routine check' can you tell them to burger off and mind there own business or just keep riding as you are not breaking any law?
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Old 24-04-11, 05:32 PM   #12
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Yeah you can, but if they turn those blue flashy light on it means they want to party
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Old 24-04-11, 05:34 PM   #13
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what if you stop for a break and an officer starts to give you the 'spiel' can you say 'no thanks' and walk off or tell him to mind his own business?

or if you are driving within speed limit and are 'lawful' and they decide to pull you over for a 'routine check' can you tell them to burger off and mind there own business or just keep riding as you are not breaking any law?
With regards to your second question, no you can't. And why would you if everything was "lawful" anyway because you would be away in less than five minutes!!! Constables in uniform are entitled to stop and examine any vehicle (*with authority of the chief constable, which I know we all have) and driver documentation on a road at any time.
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Old 24-04-11, 07:18 PM   #14
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It`s no more likely to happen here than it is anywhere else in the UK , scaremongering tactics that only seem to worry people who don`t live around here so it appears to be doing it`s job . Doesn`t affect the locals as we know what goes on , some unfortunates still come here and die or some plonkers cause mayhem then ride off back home and the likes of you lot worrying there at the back .... stay away for fear of a nick or a safety chat . Tourism misses out a little but you miss out on some great roads . And if you are squeeky clean with nothing to worry about on the bike then come and enjoy it .

You can`t let something like this , and a bit of misinformation , keep you away . My experience of Scottish people came from when I managed a pub and had to throw people out at 11:30 at night , from that experience I felt like every Scottish person was a drunkard with a bad attitude , bit like the Welsh and English I also had to throw out ... but the point I am getting at is that the small quota of Scottish people I had dealt with were hassle . It doesn`t make the whole country a place to avoid . At the GMII I never met a nicer bunch of people , I was in Edinburgh last weekend and had a total blast , and I drove down the A7 to Galashiels to pick up a guitar and thought "damn , gotta come here again on a bike soon" . Anyhoo , don`t let a bit of scaremongering and propaganda keep you away . Forgot what I was rambling about anyway
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Old 24-04-11, 07:52 PM   #15
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With regards to your second question, no you can't. And why would you
as i'm going about my business and committing no crime. its 5 minuets of MY time they are wasting. i have to pull over at a suitable spot, i have to turn my bike off, i have to take my helmet off and answer their questions.

as to the fist question, so i can tell them i'm 'not interested in what they have to say'?
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Old 26-04-11, 02:48 PM   #16
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I've just come back from doing 250 miles around places I can't pronounce (Ruthin/Denbigh/Betws-y-Coed/Llanberis/Beddgelert/Penrhyndeudraeth/Bala/Llangollen)
I think I saw you mate, at least I remember thinking 'Was that Chris' as we flashed past each other in opposite directions Don't remember where though!
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Old 26-04-11, 03:05 PM   #17
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Ha...I remember being stopped at a Police roadblock whilst on my BikeSafe course. We were with 2 x coppers on their Police bikes in full uniform and the Heddlu stopped us all and made us wait whilst they processed the 20 or so other bikes they'd stopped, before waving us on.

The Merseyside bobbies we were with were absolutely livid!
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Old 26-04-11, 04:19 PM   #18
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No mention of the helicopter. Like others here I've never had a problem in Wales, but then I do tend to go up there baffled and with a legal plate, and not riding like a looney (ie: 50% or more over the speed limit). That helicopter always does worry me when I see it in the sky though. I think the "law abiding motorcyclist" is a very rare thing. How many riders do you know who go for a day out and never exceed 60mph? I'm happy to be a "safe" motorcyclist, especially if it means the police will leave me alone, but what I don't want is to be zapped by a bloody helicopter whilst doing 75 in a 60 limit.

Personally I don't have a problem with a copper coming for a chat at stops, and I think the article does intimate that it's a safety chat, not a "is this your vehicle with the small numberplate sir?"

I also think by a "fully legal" bike, they didn't mean they would still stop every bike to check, but that the bike is baffled, has an acceptable number plate, the bulbs work, it doesn't look like YC's bike, and it passes an APNR check.

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Old 26-04-11, 04:51 PM   #19
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Because I can't be bothered Googling, can anyone tell me about the helicopter being used for speed enforcement?

Knowing the cost of them, and how hard it can be getting the thing in the air, I'm surprised it was used for this. I know those lads were filmed and potted on the dual carriageway, but I think the parrafin pidgeon was out on another job and saw them anyway. Plus, riding like that deserves whatever they got.

Does anon know someone prosecuted for speeding as a result on the helicopter?

Not looking for an argument, just interested in first hand accounts.

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Old 26-04-11, 06:03 PM   #20
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Meanwhile, a serious crash involving two bikes and an SUV on the A470 up north...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-n...wales-13180828

Hope they're both okay.
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