Budget racing gone mad!!

[andrewsmith]

Originally Posted by gavd

15k for a supertwin, u cud buy farquhars for £8.5k a couple of weeks ago and he won everything with that bad boy. The rule change will hardly make any differance with nemcrc/melville as they werent enforced in the first place, i doubt there was more than a couple illegal bikes anyway. as gordon says if you look at the mtwins/supertwins times theres a knats **** in it anyway. I think a well ridden minitwin will still be very competitive and (no offence tc) a national license still easily achievable on a minitwin up against the supertwins.

Gav,

Thats new build cost, Farqhuars would be £16k+ as it destroyed every other Supertwin (inc his team mates).

yup fair enuf bud just re-read that never realised u said build cost

Defo cant afford to spend that sort of cash on my carby Sv iam building... Still going to race it next year in minitwins/ supertwin class, what ever. My race is with the man in front of me. If Brent wasnt racing a 600 id be up for building a supertwin.

Its a shame the minitwin class is fading out.

kev.

Hi Gav,
no offence taken matey-I value your opinion in fact.

The thing that get's my goat most is that the Minitwin class was supposed to be a level playing field for people racing on a budget.
Supertwins just becomes a class of the "Havs" and the "Have Nots"

Truth is-to answer other comments-If the Clubs who introduced the Minitwin class in the first place had weighed up the the pro's and cons of running it, then they should have sorted out the policing from the start-or not started the class! If i'd been involved with the North East club when Minitwins started i'd have made sure of that! What I find very interesting is that no-one in the past seems to have brought this to lite and were content to let absolutely anything go!!

There are a lot of people-myself included, who turned up to race in what should have been a properly ran and fair class, which in reality was a farce-but hey, the clubs were happy to take my cash and do nowt!!
It will take a good mouthwash to get rid of that bitter taste!

I'm not disagreeing with anyone who wants to turn up and have a race-good luck to you! I just dont think it's worth spending most of my disposable income on-or to put it simpler-in the chequebook race, i'm on a moped!

Merry Christmas and Happy New!

Tony, how was it a farce? We all enjoyed racing in it for years thanks. It was called minitwins, the rules were available for anyone entering and everyone I knew stuck to them. We shared awnings, looked over each others bikes and kept each other right. I agree it's not as good as bemsee but it worked fine.
When I rocked up at my first minitwin race and finished 13th I didn't spit the dummy and start saying it's a farce and everyone's cheating, I pulled my finger out and the results improved.
Cheque book racing? Wtf is that? Racing costs money Tony, so those with more of it are always going to use it to gain an advantage. When you go cb500 racing and people have a wet and dry bike with new tyres being thrown on for everyrace, suspension and motor serviced regularly, test days before meetings etc etc Are you going to cry about that as well?
If the class wasn't for you mate, fair enough, but calling it a farce is a bit if an insult to those of us who raced hard and played fair and are proud of what little we achieved.
Sorry if it's a bit of a rant. To be honest I'm a bit miffed as I used to hold you up as an example of the "get on with it and don't give a **** what anyone else thinks" club racer. What changed?!

All the best whatever you decide to do.

Gordon

I have to agree with Flash. :P

We used to have a great time in the thick of it and sod the buggers with the big bores. We were never likely to win and knew it and precisely *because* of that we had a blast at the back, in the middle or even, if enough people fell off, the top 7 or 8.

We were there for the *racing* not the winning. Even if it does change to Supertwins, there's still likely to be someone with the same size cheque book to play with. Lots of them in fact.

C

I did win! But I didn't work on the bike I worked on my riding which is kind of the whole point.

Oxford Dictionary-Farce-Absurdly Futile Proceedings
Futile-Ineffectual

I stick with my description-Minitwins was ran by NEMCRC ineffectively!

If anyone thinks that not one single class relevant check being carried out on one single solitary machine for a whole season is an effective way to run that class, is deluded! And that's just my experience! It's gone on for a lot longer than that!
And you're right Gordon-racing costs money! But me, I like to get something for my money! And yet another truth-I was sold short!
I went to the showroom-ordered a new Focus and they delivered a Fiesta!!
I'll say it again-not one single thing was done to ensure that everyone was playing fair! The murmurings in the paddock were getting louder and all i've ever done is to voice these concerns! But once I put my head over that parapet-blimey all of a sudden i've got shell shock!!
In my opinion-anyone that thinks after several years of running the minitwin class with no enforcement, nobody was pushing the boundaries-perhaps even crossing the boundaries of legality, probably thinks that no-one would ever get on a bus to win a marathon!!
Dont forget-it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the barrel!!
I haven't changed Gordon-I just went through the experience and wised up!!


TC

When I said "We" Gordon, I was talking about Tony and myself. I didn't mean to infer that you were in this group, unless of course you want to take it that way.

I'm more than happy to be in that group Carl. I just wanted to try and get away from this idea that those near the front were cheating while those in the middle were good lads just having a laugh.

Tony, I suppose you refused to accept your newcomer of the year award, seeing how it was achieved in such a joke of a series?
Experience? One season? Fair one.
Experience would have told you to stop listening to the paddock drippers and whiners not swallow every word.
You'd think we were the only series in the paddock that ran to a set of rules.
You don't see the superstock thou's and six's being pulled apart after every round but they seem to enjoy their racing without deciding that everyone that's beating them must be cheating. It's embarrassing. But I guess when you run in a novice friendly series you get "fast lad" road riders who think that because it's a level playing field they should be winning when in reality it takes most people two or three seasons to get up to speed.