Never did like the look of the Tiger XC...

Originally Posted by sv4me

Dangerous thing to say, with this being a Triumph forum n all

Got nothing to with triumph, adventure style bike sales are up 26%, impractical ? Yeah right, they are more practical and multi purpose than any road bike, these bikes can go on dirt, carry shed loads of gear if required (on and off road), they are comfortable and can do big miles to a tank.
Now, what part is impracticle again?

Originally Posted by Elliott

Long way down ring any bells?.....

yes we know what they used,but they were so heavy when they dropped them they couldnt pick them up again, and if it wasnt for there back up follopwing them they wouldn't have got round after needing one or two repairs,and after many a conversation with a chap i know who's been to the artic circle and done the original paris dakar route twice,and on the dakar route the number of brand new bmw gs's that got left behind either broken,or the riders couldn't keep up or handle the size and weight,and when riding on sand in the middle of africa being able to pick up a fully laden bike on your own may be 10 times a day or more is pretty important,oh i forgot to mention his bike of choice was a xt600,and know uses a xt660 but doesnt think its as suited to the task as the 600

Yeah and nick sanders used a R1 to get round the world so really it's not just the bike.

I'd rather go round the world on a tiger 800 or gs than a xt anyway (even though they are good bikes).

With respect mate, you're talking out your rear end, just because not all adventure bikes aren't used to go the article circle or the Dakar, they are impractical?

Every bike has pros and cons, adventure bikes tick more boxes than any other genre of bike.

Get yourself on the abr forum and see how many handy people on there can throw a big gs around.

Originally Posted by specialone

Got nothing to with triumph, adventure style bike sales are up 26%, impractical ? Yeah right, they are more practical and multi purpose than any road bike, these bikes can go on dirt, carry shed loads of gear if required (on and off road), they are comfortable and can do big miles to a tank.
Now, what part is impracticle again?

you pays your money and takes your choice,most adventure style bikes never see dirt,and unless you spend another 4k on it it wont get you to africa in style,and as to carry shed loads of gear you obviously havent seen my bandit loaded up going to the dragon rally in february,with a bit of imagination you can make most bikes do things they were not intended for

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul

you pays your money and takes your choice,most adventure style bikes never see dirt,and unless you spend another 4k on it it wont get you to africa in style,and as to carry shed loads of gear you obviously havent seen my bandit loaded up going to the dragon rally in february,with a bit of imagination you can make most bikes do things they were not intended for

Like i wrote in my edited post above, there's plenty of big bike riders on the abr forum who would disagree with you.
You squeezing a load of stuff on your bandit is one thing but it will always feel and look like an over loaded bike, the big adventure bikes are designed with this in mind and will handle the job better.
My sprint will carry loads too, but I wouldnt wanna go through a ford on it or 40mph on gravel tracks, I wouldn't think twice on an adventure bike.

There isnt a single bike out there that wouldn't need some mods if you wanted to ride to Africa and back, £4k is a bit of an exaggeration.

Originally Posted by specialone

Like i wrote in my edited post above, there's plenty of big bike riders on the abr forum who would disagree with you.
You squeezing a load of stuff on your bandit is one thing but it will always feel and look like an over loaded bike, the big adventure bikes are designed with this in mind and will handle the job better.
My sprint will carry loads too, but I wouldnt wanna go through a ford on it or 40mph on gravel tracks, I wouldn't think twice on an adventure bike.

There isnt a single bike out there that wouldn't need some mods if you wanted to ride to Africa and back, £4k is a bit of an exaggeration.

metal mule bassic panniers topbox and fittings comes out at £1650,then there other options,crashbars! bigger petrol tank gps uprated shocks etc etc,and any one who can pick up a 1/3 of a ton fully loaded in the middle of africa several times a day unaided,well his/your middle name must be samson,and as i mentioned before there are a number of well off people who get there brand new fully equipped gs shipped out to do the africa experiance,more fail or give up then make it because it to difficult,made harder by the size and weight of the bikes,and the number of miles you have to do every day to keep up if you are in a organized group,the chap i know flew back over to rescue a 14k gs bike back to the uk as the owner couldnt hack it

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Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul

metal mule bassic panniers topbox and fittings comes out at £1650,then there other options,crashbars! bigger petrol tank gps uprated shocks etc etc,and any one who can pick up a 1/3 of a ton fully loaded in the middle of africa several times a day unaided,well his/your middle name must be samson,and as i mentioned before there are a number of well off people who get there brand new fully equipped gs shipped out to do the africa experiance,more fail or give up then make it because it to difficult,made harder by the size and weight of the bikes,and the number of miles you have to do every day to keep up if you are in a organized group,the chap i know flew back over to rescue a 14k gs bike back to the uk as the owner couldnt hack it

so how many buy one and take it to Africa?

Originally Posted by daddyjob

so how many buy one and take it to Africa?

a few less then go off road with one in this country,dont get me wrong the tiger and the gs are mostlikely good bikes on the tarmac,not so good when your inside leg measure about 30 inch's,but i think most people would find them a handfull off road because of the size and weight,and if i was to go off road in this country for the day i would get something like a ts250 or dt175,there getting a bit old in the tooth these days,but are/were cheap to buy and run,not to high seatwise and even a whimp like me could pick it up if you dropped it

yeah but you can go on a off road riding experience to teach you the skills of riding it off road. Just like Porsche owners getting a driving course so they don't exit every bend backwards because they have lifted off the throttle lol

and if you buy a bike that is too big for you then of course you're gonna struggle riding it however you might be built like a tank and can bench press the bloody thing lol

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul

metal mule bassic panniers topbox and fittings comes out at £1650,then there other options,crashbars! bigger petrol tank gps uprated shocks etc etc,and any one who can pick up a 1/3 of a ton fully loaded in the middle of africa several times a day unaided,well his/your middle name must be samson,and as i mentioned before there are a number of well off people who get there brand new fully equipped gs shipped out to do the africa experiance,more fail or give up then make it because it to difficult,made harder by the size and weight of the bikes,and the number of miles you have to do every day to keep up if you are in a organized group,the chap i know flew back over to rescue a 14k gs bike back to the uk as the owner couldnt hack it

Who said you have to use metal mule boxes, there are plenty that are a fraction of that, a lot of bikes come with them now too.

There are a number of people who buy the gs and never take them off road, but they also are a very good road bike, I was speaking to a guy in his 50's at a rally who had a 1200 and never went off road but he could get his knee down on the track in the fast group on track days and overtook sports bikes on mountain passes in the French alps, so they are capable.

Adventure bikes don't have to be axel deep in mud and gravel to make sense, this is where you're missing the point, they do virtually everything better than a normal road bike.