(Possible) suicide attempt using motorcycle

[dizzyblonde]

My brother works with mentally ill patients and rather a lot of attempted suicides from setting light to beds to overdoses. It's a very difficult job.

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by dkid

It's sad when somebody feels that suicide is the only way out of their situation and I have some sympathy, but... I can't help but feel there are ways to top yourself which are slightly less horrific for the people left behind who have to ultimately pick up the pieces afterwards. It's terrible for the hospital staff who have to deal with trauma cases like this, especially when there are other people who may need that medical attention who actually want to live.
It's worse however for the loved ones who, although perhaps thankful that their husband/son/father/brother has survived, will now face the prospect of having thier lives turned upside down. They will have to come to terms with the immediate situation and will possibly have to nurse him for weeks, months, years or for the rest of his life.
It may sound harsh to call this guy selfish but in a way it kinda was IMHO. I'm sure he wasn't in a fit state of mind when he felt like he had no other option but his chosen method was pre meditated and not impulsive (he wrote a note). If he truely wanted out there are ways that are kinder to those who have to deal with the aftermath.

Personally, I just try not to 'Judge' when in comes to instances like this.

Is suicide a selfish act? very possibly. Some folks say it's cowardly...

What real difference does it make if a person wrote a note or not?
Is there a rule book outlining how to achieve the 'right type of suicide' ?

As had been mentioned, the very act goes against our survival instinct....doesn't that tell us a lot?

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

As had been mentioned, the very act goes against our survival instinct....doesn't that tell us a lot?

The human body and mind is designed for having scraps over bits of meat with sabre toothed tigers.

It's no wonder that being conditioned into thinking a load of sh*te is important pushes some people into a slightly f***ed up mental state.

[dizzyblonde]

Slightly?

Knowing the work my brother does with his patients, 'slightly' is when you admit your depressed and go to the quack for a few pills to balance you out and go nowhere near a mental ward! Where this poor chap would most likely go when his injuries were manageable.

[yorkie_chris]

As usual, slight exaggeration may be included.

My view of attempted suicides is probably unpopular.

[dizzyblonde]

I'm not entirely comfortable with it myself, and believe me when I say it takes a special kind of compassionate person to help sort these folk out if they don't succeed.

It's not a job I could do personally, but mum and brother have worked in mental health for many years.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

Personally, I just try not to 'Judge' when in comes to instances like this.

I'm not judging the guy, honestly. I really do have genuine sympathy for anyone who feels so desperately sad that they take their own life. If I came accross as judgemental then I'm sorry. I'm just pointing out the flip side.
The point I was making is that I feel equally sorry for the ones who have to clear up the mess every bit as much as I feel sorry for the suicide victim. If the person concerned was able to think clearly enough I'm sure they would see the impact of their actions on others around them. E.g the train driver who is a nervous wreck on anti depressants and can never work again or sleep properly because every time he trys he can see the face of the jumper a fraction of a second before they hit the windscreen of his train. That poor bloke will carry that with him forever. Not nice.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

What real difference does it make if a person wrote a note or not?

If they leave a note it may show that they are thinking rationally enough to form a plan and the go out and execute that plan. If you're able enough to think that clearly perhaps you're able enough to consider the ramifacations of what you're doing. That's different to someone who, in a shear moment of panic is so distressed that they spontaniously take the first option to hand without forethought or planning.

Like I said not judging anyone here, just looking at the bigger picture.

Originally Posted by Fordward

So what did he ride into?

I'm not sure. All I know is he was found in some sort of ditch. He must of taken a fair tumble getting there. My guess is he hit the ground having fallen down from a fair height, and either landed with his arms out or straight onto his pelvis and then took a bit of a roll, but who knows.

I was off today but will follow the chappy up tomorrow to see what's happened to him.

Fingers crossed for the guy.

Well he's still alive and recovering I believe. Apparently he was aiming for and went flying into some sort
of advertising board.