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Old 16-12-13, 10:27 PM   #11
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Did you also have the left turn indicator on?
No. I had the right turn indicator on. I stay central there to give me a little extra time to react as people are always cutting across without looking to leave the A1.

Last thing I expected was a car squeezing through a gap that wasn't even big enough for a car. From the looks of the video they were pretty much on the grass verge as they passed.
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Old 16-12-13, 10:29 PM   #12
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As bikers when we filter though traffic do we not get as a close to another vehicle as that in the video?
A couple of differences though, the outcome of any contact is rarely going to end up in our favour and we are much more aware of where the edges of our vehicle are.
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Old 16-12-13, 10:39 PM   #13
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No. I had the right turn indicator on. I stay central there to give me a little extra time to react as people are always cutting across without looking to leave the A1.

Last thing I expected was a car squeezing through a gap that wasn't even big enough for a car. From the looks of the video they were pretty much on the grass verge as they passed.
I don't see what the big deal is. You're going down a slip road that has two outcomes, keep left and take the next exit, or keep right and join the main carriageway. Your indicating right but stooging around in the middle of the lane and quite clearly there was room on your left otherwise he would have clipped you. As someone has pointed out we filter past cars that dither around in front of us, reverse the positions and I'm sure you would have passed him.

If you want to avoid that happening again next time you see a vehicle coming up on your inside like that just move over to the right and give them more room. You had plenty of view to your right towards the main carriageway so all you want to avoid is being between a vehicle on the main carriageway (for the reason you say) and a vehicle to your nearside. It's just a question of timing.

Oh and to answer your original question feel free to take your complaint and video into your local police station. It quite rightly won't go anywhere, but if it makes you feel better.....
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Old 16-12-13, 11:04 PM   #14
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I don't see what the big deal is. You're going down a slip road that has two outcomes, keep left and take the next exit, or keep right and join the main carriageway. Your indicating right but stooging around in the middle of the lane and quite clearly there was room on your left otherwise he would have clipped you. As someone has pointed out we filter past cars that dither around in front of us, reverse the positions and I'm sure you would have passed him.

If you want to avoid that happening again next time you see a vehicle coming up on your inside like that just move over to the right and give them more room. You had plenty of view to your right towards the main carriageway so all you want to avoid is being between a vehicle on the main carriageway (for the reason you say) and a vehicle to your nearside. It's just a question of timing.

Oh and to answer your original question feel free to take your complaint and video into your local police station. It quite rightly won't go anywhere, but if it makes you feel better.....
I understand where you're coming from RH and I agree mostly with everything you post on here, but I disagree regarding this, it was pure impatience, there was absolutely no reason or gain for that car to buzz him that close.
Ok, he could've commanded his lane a bit better but that driver only had to wait 2 seconds before he was in the lane he was planning, if you're unsure of the intentions of the bike or vehicle in front, you dont overtake.

I agree about it not bring a prosecutable offence but in terms of good driving, it leaves a lot to be desired and the driver is a **** IMO.

And, it wasn't two lanes there, it's one, he was indicating right so a tiny bit of patience and the op would've been out of his way.

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Old 16-12-13, 11:05 PM   #15
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I don't see what the big deal is. You're going down a slip road that has two outcomes, keep left and take the next exit, or keep right and join the main carriageway. Your indicating right but stooging around in the middle of the lane and quite clearly there was room on your left otherwise he would have clipped you. As someone has pointed out we filter past cars that dither around in front of us, reverse the positions and I'm sure you would have passed him.

If you want to avoid that happening again next time you see a vehicle coming up on your inside like that just move over to the right and give them more room. You had plenty of view to your right towards the main carriageway so all you want to avoid is being between a vehicle on the main carriageway (for the reason you say) and a vehicle to your nearside. It's just a question of timing.

Oh and to answer your original question feel free to take your complaint and video into your local police station. It quite rightly won't go anywhere, but if it makes you feel better.....
Thank you for your constructive criticism but there wasn't enough room for the car to safely pass. You can see that just after they pass me they are moving off from the grass verge and when they are beside me the shadow from my mirror shows just how close they were. That part of the road is 1 lane and I was in the centre of it so I don't see what the problem is there?

If people can get away with driving like this even with video evidence then what does it actually take for the police to do anything about it?
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Old 16-12-13, 11:07 PM   #16
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I understand where you're coming from RH and I agree mostly with everything you post on here, but I disagree regarding this, it was pure impatience, there was absolutely no reason or gain for that car to buzz him that close.
Ok, he could've commanded his lane a bit better but that driver only had to wait 2 seconds before he was in the lane he was planning, if you're unsure of the intentions of the bike or vehicle in front, you dont overtake.

I agree about it not bring a prosecutable offence but in terms of good driving, it leaves a lot to be desired and the driver is a **** IMO.
I don't see how I could have commanded that lane any more. I was basically in the center of it?
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Old 16-12-13, 11:11 PM   #17
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I don't see how I could have commanded that lane any more. I was basically in the center of it?
If it was me mate (not having a dig btw, on your side) I would've been more right, if that's the direction I'm heading, road positioning is very important especially on a bike, I get why you was central but if you was right, the buzz by that t**t wouldn't have give you any cause to be alarmed, just giving my opinion, but I'm still on your side with this one.
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Old 17-12-13, 12:09 AM   #18
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I'm not saying the car driver was in the right, they were impatient and were pretty inconsiderate towards you, but their driving was nothing that unusual and the situation was completely avoidable. Why do you feel the need to "command" the lane? You can clearly see from their position behind you what their intention is and by attempting to block them are you being as inconsiderate towards them as they are towards you? Yes it's only one lane but there's plenty of room for a car and motorcycle and as I said earlier, had your positions been reversed you would have thought nothing of filtering past with that much room available. Two wrongs don't make a right and in my view our courts have more than enough on their plates without having to sort out an argument over who was more wrong than the other, especially as you've both survived unscathed and maybe a bit wiser for next time....
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Old 17-12-13, 12:34 AM   #19
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From the video alone it looks as though the car just didn't see you, didn't have time to brake, and got past you as safely as they could. Did you see them approaching in your mirrors? How fast were they approaching you?

It's difficult to tell if they made a mistake through lack of observations, or if they were just trying to get past you as quickly as possible.
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Old 17-12-13, 12:39 AM   #20
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Had the positioned been reversed I wouldn't have been stupid enough to squeeze through a gap at +40mph with only inches to spare.

I was in the center of the lane but at almost the speed limit. Due to that slip road being on a curve I couldn't see if the carriageway was clear in my mirrors until I was further down the road. As I mentioned earlier, cars can shoot across that right lane to get to the exit, they also speed up the inside lane at more than the speed limit so I wanted to make sure that it was clear. Had it not been icy I may have been a little quicker getting onto the carriageway but I already had a couple of minor slips on my way there due to the weather and cold tyres.

There are things I could have done different, as there always will be when watching something back.

Incidents like this are the reason I always have a camera rolling when I'm out.
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