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Old 26-05-14, 03:21 PM   #11
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Gordon Brown didn't help matters by merging Customs & Immigration into one agency.

Did Mr Personality really help anything?
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Old 26-05-14, 04:00 PM   #12
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No, I don't think so
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Old 26-05-14, 07:36 PM   #13
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stop sitting there and blaming your politicians for everything. if you want to blame anyone blame yourself for letting them do what the feck they want.

the biggest problem with the UK is apathy. the public would rather sit in front of their TV and shout at the problems rather than actively do something about it.

until the public of the UK start telling their politicians what to do then politicians will keep on doing what they like.
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Old 26-05-14, 09:15 PM   #14
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I voted, and like many people my vote was a protest vote, unfortunately I was amongst the minority as to where my protest vote went, I do not feel that I wasted my vote, I do however feel saddened that such a huge proportion of those who voted chose a one trick pony as the recipient of their votes. Protest is to be expected at this point in the cycle, we have had the boom and bust, it has, and still is, taken much hardship on a worldwide scale to rectify to damage caused by the reckless gambling of the early years of this century. Of course we all want controlled growth, but how can that go on forever, therefore boom and bust will always be the way of the world, and this will also lead to constant dissatisfaction with our leaders and so the world goes on. Regarding the referendum, are they not legally bound to act on the results?
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Old 26-05-14, 10:32 PM   #15
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stop sitting there and blaming your politicians for everything. if you want to blame anyone blame yourself for letting them do what the feck they want.

the biggest problem with the UK is apathy. the public would rather sit in front of their TV and shout at the problems rather than actively do something about it.

until the public of the UK start telling their politicians what to do then politicians will keep on doing what they like.
They will anyway.

People ARE telling politicians what to do but the system is designed specifically so that politicians don't have to obey the will of the minority, majority, or pretty much anyone else unless they have a pocket full of cash and the specific politician needs it.
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Old 26-05-14, 10:37 PM   #16
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Have you tried to talk with your MP.
Even when its a large number that the delegate a spokesperson with a perttion,Sadly it mainly falls on deaf ears.
I found this in our local area to be true.
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Old 27-05-14, 12:15 AM   #17
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Did Mr Personality really help anything?
I don't think the current UKIP leader will help anything either.
The EU fisheries policy has been a complete shambles for decades, that the discard policy wasted countless millions of tonnes of perfectly good fish, and that the British fishing industry has suffered appallingly as a consequence of this mismanagement.

There is one glaring problem with UKIP harping on about how terrible the EU fisheries policy is. That problem is that a certain Mr Nigel Farage was a member of the European Fisheries committee for three years, yet he only ever bothered to turn up to one single meeting out of 42*.

So UKIP are happy to use the suffering of the British fishing industry as part of their Vote UKIP propaganda campaign, yet when Farage actually had an opportunity to stand up and fight for the British fishing industry in a place where he could have made an actual difference, he couldn't even be arsed to turn up to 97.6% of the meetings.
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Old 27-05-14, 12:17 AM   #18
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The thing is voting for UKIP isn't about getting UKIP into power any more than voting green in the 90s was about getting a green prime minister.

It's about using fringe parties to show the government where their interests lie.

The move votes UKIP get the more the other parties will see a way they could get more votes.
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Old 27-05-14, 07:44 PM   #19
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The same people vote for the main parties time and time again, this time however more than a few 'i dont bother to vote most times' did get up and vote and it was a poke in the eye for the 'Big 3'.

What's really scary is these 'I'm not a politican but i'm now an MEP' will be voting on points of substance than will in all probability impact UK law or regulation and more probably not for the better.

Do UKIP hate bikes? better hope not!
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The same people vote for the main parties time and time again, this time however more than a few 'i dont bother to vote most times' did get up and vote and it was a poke in the eye for the 'Big 3'.

What's really scary is these 'I'm not a politican but i'm now an MEP' will be voting on points of substance than will in all probability impact UK law or regulation and more probably not for the better.

Do UKIP hate bikes? better hope not!
going on there track record they are unlikly to do much attending

A certain Mr Nigel Farage was a member of the European Fisheries committee for three years, yet he only ever bothered to turn up to one single meeting out of 42*.

So UKIP are happy to use the suffering of the British fishing industry as part of their Vote UKIP propaganda campaign, yet when Farage actually had an opportunity to stand up and fight for the British fishing industry in a place where he could have made an actual difference, he couldn't even be arsed to turn up to 97.6% of the meetings.
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