worse than driving with a mobile

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by Spank86

In all fairness although she blatantly shouldn't have been wearing makeup there's nothing g that says she has to give way to your desire to change lanes.

The indicator isn't a god given right to cut people up even if you will miss a turning otherwise. (I don't understand the limited view part, even vans don't have a blind spot with correctly adjusted mirrors).

That would rather depend on her speed relative to the vehicles ahead of her, how far they were away, and the speed difference between the traffic in the nearside/slip lane and the main carriageway. Her speed should be appropriate to the prevailing road conditions and I would suggest that when driving through a junction where there is potential for vehicles on either side to have to make lane changes the greater the speed difference the greater the risk. Yes there is a responsibility on the driver wishing to change lanes, however driving forward into a space that another driver is clearly intending to use is equally inconsiderate.

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by Spank86

In all fairness although she blatantly shouldn't have been wearing makeup there's nothing g that says she has to give way to your desire to change lanes.

The indicator isn't a god given right to cut people up even if you will miss a turning otherwise. (I don't understand the limited view part, even vans don't have a blind spot with correctly adjusted mirrors).

yes, but I didn't cut her up. I moved into any empty space to my side. When the traffic slowed down, she panicked as she discovered there was slightly less gap than last time she looked.

Originally Posted by timwilky

yes, but I didn't cut her up. I moved into any empty space to my side. When the traffic slowed down, she panicked as she discovered there was slightly less gap than last time she looked.

Apologies, I was mislead by your use of "a second or two".

It's one of those units of time that always seems ridiculously short in your head but when you actually work it out it takes a lot of time and covers a lot of ground.

[Bibio]

you knew your turn off was coming up so you should have made an effort to be in the correct lane first so your just as bad as the makeup lady but instead you barged your way in.

lets look at this another way, if there was not a gap what would you have done?

[timwilky]

Think about this piece of road please. Perhaps my description is poor.

It is single carriageway, that becomes dual carriagway as the joining sliproad becomes the LH lane. I have no choice as I was on the existing road. I am in the RH lane by virtue of traffic joining. I want to take the next left, so I have 100 yards to get in. If not I stop in the rh lane and wait for someone to let me in which is a common occurrence.


Originally this road was built as two lanes, but because traffice could not join from the slip road when there were tail backs, they made it one lane and let the slip road traffic continue as the LH lane, this means traffic in the LH lane is often fighting to get in the RH as they do no want leave where the LH lane filters off.

Need to get a google satellite pic posted

[NTECUK]

Your van is it white?
Are you the fabled white van man.Did I met you on the trip up to leeds?

[timwilky]

You may have met the daughter, she borrowed it to move her stuff to/from leeds

Then again you are alive. so no chance you met the daughter, she is a nasty piece of work, her mum and I live in fear of her.

(so do the house door frames)

[Bibio]

i see your problem. i retract my statement. if it were me i would be putting my indicator on right after the merge lane to move left. i take it you need to get in the far left road (channel way) for your journey.

[timwilky]

correct, poor road design, you have obviously gone looking to get the road name

[Balky001]

Tim

you are obviously a menace

Agree with other comments, you can't ban everything. If people followed a couple of simple principles on being observant and courtesy (even when you are in the right!) roads would be a nicer place.

I had a chap yesterday coming towards me in a little Ka overtaking a line of parked cars on his side of the road by using my lane. I had to stop quickly as he appeared from behind the line (my lane was clear), completely obscured by the last parked car. His road position was awful as was his manners and attitude let alone his speed. I backed up a bit to give him room and he didn't even say thanks. Life is too short to get angry but I just can't understand the 'entitled' attitude he had