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Old 01-09-14, 12:17 PM   #11
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Most gears I'll only ever sit between 3k and 4k, when I hit 4k I shift up unless I'm in fifth or sixth, or if I'm acting like a hooligan. I like the soft throttle response before it hits that 4.5k power, and on motorways it just feels exhausted the entire time ( this is without the restriction mind you )
That sounds like you're just not used to the feel of the bike at higher revs. The engine should be perfectly relaxed until well over legal motorway speeds. I can't help thinking you're missing out by changing up at such low revs.

I assume you're running the standard sprockets?
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Old 01-09-14, 12:24 PM   #12
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It's not just rospa,iam etc it's. Just what they use
http://www.iam.org.uk/media-and-rese...ps/20434-ipsga
It's something you do naturally.
They just give it a neat little name.
And make it a bit more involved
Though IAM. Rospa bike safe etc training is good
Hears a link to the hugger-campaign.
It's not as stiff as iam (not knocking any of the rospa etc gang).
What it will do is get a bit more out of your riding and be safer.
If you can book up a bike safe.
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Old 01-09-14, 12:26 PM   #13
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you can never have enough power but you have to sit down and be serous with yourself and say can i actually use that power. good riders are just that no matter how much power they have on tap as they know how to use it but i'm sorry to say that there are faaaar to many riders on the road that want to be part of the big boys club but dont have the skill, they then try to keep up with those that do and get themselves out of their comfort zone and thats when problems occur.

at normal speeds it's easier to ride a larger power bike as you dont have to think that much about overtakes etc.etc but as the pace quickens then your brain has to work harder, this is where a lot of people fail as they cant process so much information as things are happening much much faster. i'm not trying to be condescending but us mortals dont have what it takes to be motogp riders.
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Old 01-09-14, 12:30 PM   #14
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It's not just rospa,iam etc it's. Just what they use
I want to go it's safe the NSL is coming up . info
Can I get a better place to check it's OK
I'm in a 40 at the moment chugging along in 5 th. Is it the right gear to get my bike/car to respond. Info. Position. Gear
Yah it's on! Accelerate
It's something you do naturally.
They just give it a neat little name.
And make it a bit more involved
Though IAM. Rospa bike safe etc training is good
It is indeed, I was doing some Friday and Saturday, just seemed funny you mentioned it in here
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Old 01-09-14, 12:34 PM   #15
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That sounds like you're just not used to the feel of the bike at higher revs. The engine should be perfectly relaxed until well over legal motorway speeds. I can't help thinking you're missing out by changing up at such low revs.

I assume you're running the standard sprockets?
Yeah, standard gearing.

I guess it's a combination of things, the previous owner had a very loud slip on installed ( compared to other slip ons on SVs that is ) and I find the bike sounds extremely loud and not considerably great really past 5-6k.

There's also me chopping the throttle, it's not something I do on occasion and when I say chop, I mean the slightest amount. When I'm at that 'cruising' RPM the response is comfy, when I'm any higher and I pull back on the throttle the slightest bit I get thrown forwards unless I'm man handling the tank like I'm trying to get a knee down.

When I said motorway speeds, I should have been clearer and have said motorway speeds and a bit more, and then some.
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Old 01-09-14, 12:34 PM   #16
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Ah how did you find it.
Worth the effort? Liam is a Rospa guy who bent my ear about speeds and overtakes Sunday afternoon
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Old 01-09-14, 12:39 PM   #17
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I really struggle to enjoy the SV650 on motorways, but from everything I've read from other users, I ride my SV rather differently from others.

Most gears I'll only ever sit between 3k and 4k, when I hit 4k I shift up unless I'm in fifth or sixth, or if I'm acting like a hooligan. I like the soft throttle response before it hits that 4.5k power, and on motorways it just feels exhausted the entire time ( this is without the restriction mind you ).

The SV makes an excellent bike for somebody with a restricted license, I'm thinking of a Triple or something more adv touring styled like a Tiger or GS for when I can spoil myself.
I struggle to enjoy any motorbike on motorways but the SV650 is totally up to the job of motorway mile eating, with pillion and luggage. On standard SK6 gearing I hold mine between 6k and 7k in top and its very happy to sit there until the tank needs filling.
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Old 01-09-14, 12:43 PM   #18
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Oh yeah, seriously, 100% it can do motorways. My original point was that I struggle to enjoy the bike when it's at that rev range, that I'd rather a bike geared more appropriately or simply larger which could chew up those miles doing 70+ without consuming 7/10ths of the rev range.
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Old 01-09-14, 12:50 PM   #19
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i fitted a 16t front sprocket and its made a massive difference to the bike, some like it some dont but i love it as it gives the gearing more legs and it's now not sitting on MW's screaming its head off.
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Old 01-09-14, 12:55 PM   #20
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Sounds like you'd prefer an inline four. They typically have higher revs available, for example my old CBR600 used less than half it's max revs to reach 70. An inline four also has less sharp engine braking, and also less judder and/or snatch at low revs. The downside is that they're pretty gutless if you're not in the correct gear. Ride one and see how it suits you.
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