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i could adapt a Gizmo to do the job as the base will accept a 5 pin relay. |
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seen this wiring kit online (from america i think). looks like the kind of set up i may need, if it can be made easily of course.
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everyone wants the eastern beaver ones coz they look fancy.
tbh a single change over relay with a daisy chain at the lamp end will do just fine. the SV does not have a relay for the lighting circuit as standard and instead realise on the switchgear to change over which puts strain on the contacts and reduces the power to the lamp. the coil on the CO (change over) relay is used to energise for Hi beam, while no power to the coil is for Lo beam. on a 5 pin CO relay the pins are: Pin 30 is for the main battery power feed pin 87a is for Lo beam pin 87 if for Hi beam pin 85-86 are to energise the coil to switch the contact over, you use the Hi beam circuit on your switchgear to do this. so to wire it all up you would run a cable with an eyelet from your battery to pin 30 on the bottom of the relay. next take a cable from pin 87a and run this to your Lo beam pin on your lamp holders (using a daisy chain). you then run a cable from pin 87 to the Hi beam pin on your lamp holders (using a daisy chain) you then run a negative cable from both lamp holders to the negative battery terminal. you then connect the Hi beam circuit from your switchgear to the coil pins 85 and 86. |
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Hmmm, how'd you get so clever Bibs?
![]() Right.. so following your superb write up and most excellently drawn diagram, am i right in thinking when my Bro is ready to undertake this lighting mission that with maybe the correct monetary incentive (and a grope from me) we can employ your direct hands on talents?... as i for one (cant speak for me Bro) havent got a clue what any of your information means ![]()
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i recently went through this with another member via pm but for another application.
it's easy. think of a gate... opening and closing now lets call an open gate left open Normally Open (NO). a closed gate left closed is Normally Closed (NC). the hinge of the gate is Common (COM). now lets add some electricity to the gate and an electric fence on both sides. the electric fence will be live up to the COM but if the gate is open then no electricity will flow to the other side of the gate rendering the other side of the fence without electricity. someone comes along and shuts the gate causing the electricity to flow to the other fence. the above is basically how a switch works but we dont want no manual switch we want to automate it. this is where the coil of a relay comes in and opens/closes the gate for us. all a relay does is automatically switch from one contact to another except that both the open and closed positions can be live. a 4 pin relay only has 1 terminal that can have power taken from it so without adding power to the coil it would be Normally Open (NO) no power to other fence when the relay is energised it causes the switch inside to flip over making a Normally Closed (NC) position so electricity can flow to the other fence. a 5pin change over relay is the same as above but the extra contact would be like having another gate post and fence running from it so depending on if the coil has been energised it will let the electricity flow from one fence to the other. on a 5pin change over relay your bikes Hi beam wires from the original bulb holder are used to energise the coil sending power to the Hi beam filament in the lamp and when on Lo beam the coil is off so sending power to the Lo beam filament on the lamp. if you still dont understand then yes best to get me to make something up... lol |
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Im still ??? cos i is daft but will let my bro know if he hasnt already read this.
Just another question for my already overloaded brain, will it be okay to run the two 5 3/4 bates headlights with 2 x 55/60 watt bulbs without melting the wiring? My Bro will prob be along at some point (hes on night shift) to catch up and say ta
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yes you can but it will diminish the power going to the bulbs, this is why we use a relay to give power straight from the battery giving brighter bulbs and also gives a complete separate circuit so you cant burn the bikes electrics out. only problem using a relay is if the relay coil fails you loose Hi Beam function. which is no biggie as you just buy another relay. saying that a relay coil can fuse open which will only give you Hi beam. the chances of a relay failing are low.
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Thanks cupcake
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ooooppppsss i completely forgot about switching the lights on and off with the ignition. the above will have the lights permanently on.. silly me.
i'll draw something up after me T. |
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