Bikesafe or not

Seems like a fair reply to me, if they have there resources cut, dont have the funding/staff to do it.

It's a good thing that its optional as well, as you have more chance of the copper caring about what they are doing. If it were mandatory you could end up with a bikesafe boot camp, with very little good coming out of it. With instuctors doing it because they have to do it for 12hrs a week (2 *6) and do the bare minimum to "pass" you

Dan

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by BillyC

Tim seemed to be having a go at them because they've obviously been put in a situation where it is not possible to continue with the scheme. That's probably not their fault, it's the bigger picture. And then it was suggested that they should be pressured to reinstate it when an alternative is available from next month!

Billy, beer talking time. I am not having a go at them as I acknowledge my local plod have operational priorities.

I would rather a little more of the £1300 a year I am currently paying in council tax went to mr plod instead of the sport facilities for for single parent lesbians (Sorry to single you out if you are brave enough to object to the stereotyping) But If I want a book I buy it (probably spend about £250 a year with amazon), I pay for my gym membership, so why should I subsidise library and sport facilities for scroats?.

At the end of the day it appears my local council offer some sort of rider training. I would however, prefer my local plod to be in a position to offer a course. Simply because my local council are not going to ticket me. Plod are, so who do I trust to tell me how to do it right.

Originally Posted by BillyC

Jabba...

They don't all last two days (not on the bike anyway)... they don't all cost £80.

Read it again, coz I didn't say that. I said that most last two days (which is true, most being more than half ) and I said that I paid £80. Didn't say that they all cost that

Jabba wrote :-

BillyC wrote:
At the end of the day... Bikesafe is a simple one day introduction to the basics of advanced training.


Sorry mate, but you're wrong.

I think this is what got Billy going Jabba. Bill's experience of bikesafe was, according to the numerous chats we've had about it, a simple one day...blah, blah. So for you to start the discussion with "you're wrong" is wrong because he knows his own experience and you know yours, but that that don't make either of you right or wrong. Oh God, I think i got it wrong myself now. Just call me Captain Wrong from now on, coming from a Marvel Comic near you soon

Anyway, I agree with everyone and reserve the right to never hold an opinion on anything before breakfast. I haven't done bikesafe because they don't stop for food often enough and I'd pass out by lunch

Originally Posted by chutz

Jabba wrote :-

I think this is what got Billy going Jabba.

Fair comment - an emoticon should have been there

But in my defence, Billy said "Bikesafe is a simple one day introduction to the basics of advanced training..." which isn't the case with most of the courses

pants.
i tried to do 2 last year . . . but both were cancelled.

[timwilky]

Talked to my local council, Their course is 2* 2 hour theory sessions run by a retired police instructor followed by 4* 1 hour practical sessions with an optional test at the end.

They take the view that Bikesafe was essentially an assessed ride followed by a critique. Anything further was an local police addition.

The guy I talked to, also took the view that lancs police were negative in their approach, as bikesafe is included within the scope of the new 2005 transport strategy. So their approach is that they are there to educate and the police to enforce. And if they do their job right the police should be redundant.

Their advanced course is built on the roadcraft principles. costs £113.40 with a further £20 for the test. (They state this is quite aggressive pricing when compared to RoSPA or IAM) I have asked for an information pack.