a580 speed limit

Know the junction you mean, that must be one of the most stupid junctions in the country, still there's little they could do to improve it with where it is, although why there are no give way signs at least on the approach is beyond me as there are so many accidents there, once saw someone rear end an ambulance there!

The worst thing with that though is that not only is there no run on to a 50mph road (not that anyone ever seems to be doing less than 60 on there), but also you have to jump straight into the middle lane and the junction's on a bend so you can't even see easily what's coming either!

Originally Posted by Jp

Have you been on the mancunian way in manchester, theres a junction just like that and it actually is a motorway, you have to come to a complete stop almost just to see if there is any oncoming traffic.

If i didnt have the acceleration of the SV on my side when joining this (and a couple of the junctions on the affor mentionioned East lancs) id surely be 10 times as scared of it as i am now.

Imagine joining on something like that in a 1L micra or similiar, frightning!

Good god, I drive the A57(M) every single day without fail. There are two junctions - both of them coming from Upper Brook Street - the one that has you stop, and then have to dart across a lane of traffic to avoid the left lane filter onto the roundabout is lethal. I've had three drivers in the last few months just pull straight out without looking at about 10 mph across both lanes when I was in the left lane turning off down the hill onto the A5103.

There is a worse junction just a bit further back as you come through Ancoats to avoid the backlog of traffic on the Great Ancoats Street. It's a 5 way offset crossroads with a blind 120 degree corner. Why that isn't a roundabout I have no idea!!! It's just a matter of time before someone is killed there, especially when you get idiot pedestrians crossing just behind the blind bit DIAGONALLY across the roads just to save a bit of time!

There are now speed cameras on the Bury Old Road section where it comes through Cheetham Hill, two Gatsos covering both sides... also I've noticed a Gatso pole going up just before the Trinity Way/A6 junction (on that lovely wide bit - that's going to be a massive revenue raiser as just about everyone does 40+ on that bit)