Supersports 600's

Am assumi9ng the Duke749 is calssed as an SS600 and answered yes, even if I only had it for 3 weeks

Originally Posted by Scoobs

Posted: Yes!

I had a test ride on a CBR600RR and covered 80 miles so a bit more than a spin round the block. Also rode an 05 plate ZX636R recently. I was really seriously considering a SS600 as my next bike, but I am now not 100% convinced. Sure they are addictive at the top end, but low and mid range feel weak. It really is horses for courses, but I am stuck between going for a SS600 and a V-twin 1000cc bike.

That's why you have to buy a 1000cc SS to get what you want from it.. hmm 80lbs torque at 9000rpm..

Other than 2 SV650's I've ridden only a 1000cc IL4, and it made it so easy. I never slate the other bikes unless you have had the time ie 3 months+ to get to know it - to stereotype is just stooopid. I'm wid Jelster.

Just to clarify, I am not slating SS600. I probably will get one as the next ride, but a just wasn't set alight by the weak bottom and mid range.

[Viney]

I have ridden a few 600's on test ride etc. All good, but just cant get on with the power delivery. My fav was the R6, but it was just too small.

Each to thier own i suppose.

[Sid Squid]

Yes, lots. Mostly a ZX6G, 'cos I've got one.


Also: ZX6F & J, New ZX, ZZR R6, 'Cat, god knows how many varities of CBR including the new ones, GSX-R* allsorts, Triumph.

Sccobs: Weak mid and bottom end? Not to suggest that you're wrong, but it may be that next to the top end they don't feel as good.

Top gear roll on from ~40 - ~80mph, my ZX beats an SV, tested several times, but I've lost count of the times I've been told that my weedy 4cyl 600 has no torque.

*Buy this one, as much as I like the new Kwak, the K4-K5 GSX-R is a dab comfier and better value, bloody brilliant.

[Viney]

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

Strange, although I love the look of the R6 and it has great handling etc, the power delivery is the thing I find to be the most annoying about it. Soooo peaky.

I know im strange!! I want to ride the new Kwak 6 when i get a chance. But again, these 600's are just too small for comfortable riding for someone like me. I find that in real world situations, all the 6's are very much alike and it comes down to the look and stlye of the things, and i think that the KWak hits the spot on that front. Still, there is always the 10R

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I am waiting for my mate to let me ride his YZF1000 Thunder Ace, he said towards the end of the summer when I have a bit more experience....

Will be quite some comparison!

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Sccobs: Weak mid and bottom end? Not to suggest that you're wrong, but it may be that next to the top end they don't feel as good.

Right in some respects Sid. When I jumped off my SV straight onto the CBR it felt weak. It is the way the power (and torque) is delivered not necessarilly the amount. Your right that the headline figures do not back up the comment, but the seat of the pants riding sensation does (IMO obviously).

However, saying that, when I got back on the SV it was "where are the rpms" and the feeling of running out of puff at the top end.

Both configurations demand different riding styles. The twin is lazier, when the IL4's need to be kept on the boil IF you want to hustle.

I think if I had an IL4 for any period of time then after I had adapted my riding style to suit, I would be more than happy with it.

The thing with the SS600's is that they handle so much better and are so much more adjustable. This is reason enough by itself to buy one. I have a background of mountain biking and I was always experimenting with spring rates, compression and rebound damping to tweak the ride.

My £0.02 for what it is worth.

I rode a daytona 650 for 30min and a CBR600F for 40min on test rides. I must say that for a new rider, not having that snap back and forth on bad clutch control at low rev(speed) was actually quite nice! What was immediately obvious though was that it was far too expensive, and I would almost certainly get into a situation where the bike would going too fast for my skills. So far the SV has tought me a lot and I like that.

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

Don't agree... I can short shift on my Ninja and still ride quickly.

Not arguing with you RDoD. Just my opinion.