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Old 13-07-05, 03:15 PM   #11
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Hmm, maybe. From the document

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6.12 Inability of motorcyclists to turn
properly is often cited as a problem,
and it is notable that the left hand bend
manoeuvre features strongly in accidents –
23% of manoeuvres leading to a fatality.
Sports bike riders and those in the 26-40
age group accounted for the majority of
rural bend accidents.
So it's basically bikers who can't lean/judge corners? I'm guessing that on rural roads the verge on the left generally provides a softer landing than the oncoming volvo on the right hand side.
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Old 13-07-05, 03:31 PM   #12
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Yeah, if you go wide on a right hander you'll get the kerb/hedge/old granny. If you do the same on a left hander you'll get the volvo coming the other way. Or rather, it'll get you.
Perfectly true, the main reason for more bikers being killed on lefthanders than right. I have to say this was obvious to me the second I started riding and is, I strongly suggest, the reason that most peoples' chicken strips are slightly wider on the left side of the tyre than the right.

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More experienced riders will tend to take a left hander closer to the centre line for a better view
True again.

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...which could be risky if someone else is coming the other way and cutting the corner
See here I disagree, as you'll see the vehicle long before the rider who takes a line to the left, and will thus be able to take avoiding action quicker to put yourself into a safe part of the road.


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Old 13-07-05, 03:47 PM   #13
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See here I disagree, as you'll see the vehicle long before the rider who takes a line to the left, and will thus be able to take avoiding action quicker to put yourself into a safe part of the road.

I reckon that the extra few metres of visability wont buy you much time if you're converging at a total speed of 120mph, if you're already banked over,or god forbid, knee down at that point you're screwed as there no way you'd turn the bike more.
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Old 13-07-05, 03:49 PM   #14
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If you have too little room to correct then you are clearly going too fast!
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Old 13-07-05, 03:54 PM   #15
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If you have too little room to correct then you are clearly going too fast!
In the case of this particular discussion, then I would almost always agree.
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Old 13-07-05, 03:57 PM   #16
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Precisely.


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Old 13-07-05, 04:00 PM   #17
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yep and hence why so many accident are attributed to rider error in the first place.
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Old 13-07-05, 04:33 PM   #18
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Quite.


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Old 13-07-05, 05:57 PM   #19
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apparently the Police used to automatically place the blame on the bike if it hit a car from the oncoming lane whilst going around a left hander, presuming the biker had over-cooked it and run wide. It now appears that a lot of these crashes are caused by cars cutting the corner and there was a good article in a bike mag last year that filmed such a bend for a period of time and found 25% (if memory serves) of the cars were cutting the corner...

I personally enter a left habder from the middle of the road for better visibility but am ready to move left quickly just for these instances.
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Old 13-07-05, 06:06 PM   #20
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There's nothing wrong in cutting corners, it's even an advanced method of riding/driving providing you can see 100% it's clear and safe to do so.


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