Filtering vs Overtaking

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Insurance companies use a very old case to argue that by filtering teh rider was taking some risks and tehrefore has 50% of liability even if the driver who knocked you off wasn't driving with due care.

[BillyC]

Originally Posted by Noufy

Insurance companies use a very old case to argue that by filtering teh rider was taking some risks and tehrefore has 50% of liability even if the driver who knocked you off wasn't driving with due care.

Yeah, stupid init. We can't blame people for their stupidity or lack of skill anymore!

We're all returning to our primate intelligences!

Originally Posted by BillyC

Someone (LynW) has provided this argument on Filtering, and the responsibilities of drivers to look when they decide to change direction!

www.feelthecheese.com/Filtering.htm

fantastic link..... saved the page twice...

Thanks!!

heheh this is a helpful one i think

Originally Posted by didge

is Filtering ilegal or sumthing ?

No, but illiterate posters should be.

HTH.

You are only meant to filter if the traffic is doing less then or equal to 15mph, and you are only allowed to filter 15mph faster then the traffic. Whilst still observing the speed limit.

This means you are only meant to pass stationary traffic at 15mph. Maximum filtering speed is meant to be 30mph in a situation where the traffic is doing 15mph.

If the traffic is doing more then 15mph you are not meant to filter past. Which I think is bizare as if the traffic is doing 15 your allowed to go past at 30, yet if the traffic is doing 16 you have to wait.

Although I don't think its illegal to disregard this I think if you don't stick to it a copper can do you for dangerous driving.

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by jonnyt

You are only meant to filter if the traffic is doing less then or equal to 15mph, and you are only allowed to filter 15mph faster then the traffic. Whilst still observing the speed limit.

This means you are only meant to pass stationary traffic at 15mph. Maximum filtering speed is meant to be 30mph in a situation where the traffic is doing 15mph.

If the traffic is doing more then 15mph you are not meant to filter past. Which I think is bizare as if the traffic is doing 15 your allowed to go past at 30, yet if the traffic is doing 16 you have to wait.

Although I don't think its illegal to disregard this I think if you don't stick to it a copper can do you for dangerous driving.

Can you please direct me at the appropriate pieces of legislation that states the above.

Also where do people get off thinking a double white line means "No Overtaking" It simply means do not cross or straddle. It is perfectly legal to overtake/filter where double whites exist. You are also permitted to cross to overtake cyclists, parked cars, and slow moving road maintenance vehicle

[quote="timwilky"]

Originally Posted by jonnyt

You are also permitted to cross to overtake cyclists, parked cars, and slow moving road maintenance vehicle

Isn't that for single white lines and they must be doing 10mph or less?

Originally Posted by jonnyt

You are only meant to filter if the traffic is doing less then or equal to 15mph, and you are only allowed to filter 15mph faster then the traffic. Whilst still observing the speed limit.

This means you are only meant to pass stationary traffic at 15mph. Maximum filtering speed is meant to be 30mph in a situation where the traffic is doing 15mph.

According to my Bikesafe copper, you can filter any time the traffic is moving at less than the speed limit, provided you do it 'safely' and the speed difference between you and what you're filtering through isn't excessive.

Lots of judgement on that one, but effectively if you filter at more than 15-20 miles an hour faster than what you're passing you risk getting pulled over. 30-40 mph passing 25 mile an hour traffic is fine. Passing 50mph motorway traffic at about 70 is fine too, but probably more likely to come under 'unsafe' if the cars are able to change lanes.