Being turned towards the dark side

Fairly similar to .Net then. However, you can compile assemblies in .Net made up of different languages, as they all get translated to intermediate code. So, you could get a COBOL.Net language and it would compile next to C# classes in the same dll just fine.

I think that it's time to start looking for another job. I would fight tooth and nail to avoid C# and .net. Aren't there other alternatives you can look at?

Originally Posted by timwilky

Lucky You. Now if I could only get all my Java compiled so it ran as fast as my C stuff, I would be a very happy man and tell people where to stick their micro$oft stuff.

There are a lot of tricks you can play that will seriously increase execution speed for Java. For a start, there are two JVMs, the default one, and a Server one. If you switch over to the server one, things start shifting.

This guy for instance is benchmarking against C++ and Java is standing up well.

http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45250

Might be worth running off a few tests...

On the other hand... C# is a good language. Better than Java in some respects. You can use it on a few diff platroms, like Linux at this point. .NET is a good platform, especially if you want to do work with XML (and SOAP and things). You can then look at Mono, and see what the story is with that. The basic idea behind .NET is elegant, and I agree with it. (And, I am happy that Mono copied it.)

I have to use Perl. And Jesus Christ... its complicated.

Fortran. Fortran... is basically... I dont even know. All the code I have seen from people who are ex FORTRANers has been manky beyond belief. (Not that you code that way... it just seems, the maintainability of that stuff is gack. Says me. Who writes perl all day... )

Originally Posted by thor

Fairly similar to .Net then. However, you can compile assemblies in .Net made up of different languages, as they all get translated to intermediate code. So, you could get a COBOL.Net language and it would compile next to C# classes in the same dll just fine.

And can run it one any Windows machine. Its not portable like Java where you can just throw the byte code onto a UNIX box JVM and have it run away there.
.NET is still a lock in tool, but only just. Mono is very similar to .NET, but actually wrks over many Platforms. Mono is very interesting.

But, yeah, .NET is just the logical conclusion of Java. One louder, and lots of langs. Pity MS behave like they do though. MS were clever to see that people like to do certain things in certain langs, and not everyone wants to use Java for everything. A lot of the GUI stuff in Java is butt ugly IMO.

Originally Posted by timwilky

It is just that some of my number crunching stuff is highly maintainable, but just takes an age to run

In this case, in my opinion, moving you away from Java is the biggest mistake your bosses can make. If you can maintain the code, if the code works, if its worked for a long time, they are completely insane to move to a new lang. Tell them to buy you a faster machine. Tell them to send you on an optimizing Java course.

I can almost guarantee they will not see thnigs getting faster if you re write in C#. The effort needed to do this is huge compared to the effort needed to make your Java run faster. And, you can make it faster. This is almost certain.

(I have nothing against C# BTW, just dont want to see you wasting loads of time on this thing.)

(If they are still sold on it... I know for a fact that Oracle are / have just migrated a lot of their stuff from C / C++ to java, precisely because its more maintainable. Oracale are not a) a mickey moust outfit, and b) are not in the business of wrting slow DBs. )
So... Yeah.

I like .NET, it saves a lot of time.. i remember in the days of Borland C++ writing classes to handle the most mundane of tasks that should be built in anyway, what's the point of reinventing the wheel?

yeah errrrmmm good luck

Considering the optimized Java RsY spool rot, there is no doubt that C+++ex is a superior architexture where the organo-criteria migrates in a super lang much faster.

While FORTRAN does offer a target reflexology, the Oracle has two Javas and if you want a Perl necklace then the twinset spool-up offers some substitutability.

I have use this with DEC on the standard mainframe although when using the ANT substrate, it lowers the ROM to the point where it can RAM the Hi Lux in the Yaris.












(And which one of you get-a-lifers said that DARTS was boring???? )

Dude, that very nearly made sense.

El Boc... Do you hear that noise?

Thats HR specialists beating the crap out of each other to be first to head hunt you into a Middle Management position.

You sir, are Qualified.

Twinset spool-up. Brilliant.