Police Persucution - Plates and Pipes - READ THIS!

[Biker Biggles]

Yes yes,if we all just toed the line and did as we were told and never broke any rules and never did anything much the world would be so much better ------and very boring.
Resistance to authority is what makes us living beings.The rest is just existance.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Yes yes,if we all just toed the line and did as we were told and never broke any rules and never did anything much the world would be so much better ------and very boring.
Resistance to authority is what makes us living beings.The rest is just existance.

I'll remind you of this if your bike ever get's nicked

[Biker Biggles]

I've been the victim of theft and other crime over the years and I know how bad that can make you feel,but I'd rather put up with a certain level of crime in society than live as an automaton in a totalitarian one with no crime.And I see stopping motorcycles doing nothing wrong and measuring their numberplates as tending towards the kind of society I'd rather not live in.

[northwind]

As far as I'm concerned, it's not persecution to be pulled for something you knew was wrong. I've got a small-ish plate, a dark visor and a loud can, if and when I get bothered for them I deal with the consequences of my actions.

Call it part of the price of a nice bike. Or alternatively, remember that small plates are harder to read, and therefore make it harder to trace a driver leaving the scene. It's not for speed cameras as some would like to claim, they can read small plates no problem.

[Viney]

Write to the local commisoner if it makes you feel any better.

Originally Posted by mastiffmat

One question - can they stop people without reason? If not, can I appeal saying they had no reason to stop me (which they certainly did not).

The police need no reason to stop a vehicle being used on a public highway or anywhere that the public have access ie petrol station forecourt / supermarket car park.

They could be checking to ensure your vehicle & documents plus you are in order.

Bit of a pain though being stopped for a "chat" & then given fines.

Posted on another forum, if you get pulled ask if if its a "stop"- if it isn't, carry on. If it is, ask for a completed form- if they are going to waste your time,you waste theirs.

Rules of a stop the police must abide by

Originally Posted by Scooby Drew

Rules of a stop the police must abide by

The above applies to England & Wales ONLY. N/A to Scotland.

The laws are different.
With regards to stop & search of a person in Scotland the forms mentioned do not exist so therefore you don't get what is technically a receipt.

In Scotland a police officer must have a reason to stop you & if you don't stop then you don't know if your committing a crime by not stopping. Follow?

I'd have just started an argument (Without swearing due to that fun public order act you see the police throwing at everyone for the hell of it) asking them what saftey measures this is covering. Why are they not dealing with somethign more pressing? Where in the pull-over they actually wanted a chat. What that police officer knew about motorcycles etc....

Basically, caused an arugment for the hassle of pulling me over for no reason.

Originally Posted by Daimo

I'd have just started an argument (Without swearing due to that fun public order act you see the police throwing at everyone for the hell of it) asking them what saftey measures this is covering. Why are they not dealing with somethign more pressing? Where in the pull-over they actually wanted a chat. What that police officer knew about motorcycles etc....

Basically, caused an arugment for the hassle of pulling me over for no reason.

But if you do that then you risk them not letting you off.....

Catch 22, the Police will always win (rightly so) but the Police have a public duty to be fair which in this case (in our opinion) they were not.