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Old 27-07-06, 09:28 AM   #11
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Keeps happening to me, it only seems to click up when the bike starts dropping.

Try it with someone on the back in first, you'll balance easier provided they sit still.
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Old 27-07-06, 09:36 AM   #12
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How about getting it higher and standing up?

I usually can wheelie through the gears if I try, but prefer to try the slightly more 'technical' aspect of getting somewhere near the balance point to keep it up*.

I would be careful keeping your foot under the gear lever.
On my ZX6 I would keep my foot under the gear lever, occasionaly I would manage to knock it into neutral accidentally and come down with a bump - not good for fork seals, but not a massive problem.
I can remember pulling the throttle on slightly as the nose was starting to dip a little, from what I can work out this made me lean back a bit, this then made my foot lift up a little relative to the gear lever.
However rather than going to neutral, it went into second, instead of being almost at the redline in first with the throttle open, I go to the bottom of the powerband in second with the throttle open.
Apparantly I did a 12'o'clock 'ape hanger' for a second or two at around 60mph, then rolled along the floor on my shoulders and head, while the bike fell over and slid for a while, momentarily bursting into flame (I'm told it looked very impressive, gutted I missed it!).

I got very bad concusion thanks to a helmet that wasn't a 100% perfect fit and don't remember any of the actual accident - first thing I remember I was standing by the side of the road with a friend hugging me, however apparantly when I stopped rolling I started picking bits of bike up off the road!

Left me with headaches when I did serious exercise for about a year after and a year and a half old zx6 with a dented frame.



* Yes, I know that's still relatively lame compared to what many can do.
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Old 27-07-06, 09:41 AM   #13
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Ok I'll say it one last time and feel free to ignore .

Why are peeps not picking it up in second gear? Seriously, I'm confused as to why not. Like I've mentioned it's just so easy, that starting from first and trying to shift into second is more or less a needless exercise .

Clutchless shift from first to second can be if you technique is not perfect gear crunching are the best off times ie both wheel on the ground.

Want to go longer and look like a pro even if you are sh*t , pick it up in second and caress the balance point at your leisure. Bonus is you have a happier gearbox.

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Old 27-07-06, 09:46 AM   #14
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Oy, Ter... Photos of that bike if you please!
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Old 27-07-06, 09:52 AM   #15
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Oy, Ter... Photos of that bike if you please!
Oi Northy , here you go

http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=40928

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Old 27-07-06, 11:17 AM   #16
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Yeah G,

The same thing happened to me on a SV,

I was so happy to get the bike into second gear that I didn'y notice the bike getting lighter and nearing balance point.

I was too busy with my head around the side of the bike looking at where I was going to be concerned with a slowing rising SV,

tail hit the deck and so did I, on my **** - couldn't sit down for a week!! Worst part is that I resprayed it only like two weeks before!!

Thanks for the link 21!! : )

Took it to work a for a few days last week - goes REALLY well!! Just need to tidy it up a little now,

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Old 27-07-06, 02:43 PM   #17
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Oy, Ter... Photos of that bike if you please!
I was just thinking that. A handsome machine indeed by the looks of things.

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Old 27-07-06, 06:28 PM   #18
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Why are peeps not picking it up in second gear?
because the thing doesnt come up very easy at all, feels like you are ruinong the clutch (i know....you are but hey). seems to come up nice in first.

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Old 27-07-06, 09:48 PM   #19
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Paul , it really does/should come up easy in second with abusing the clutch especially at loow speed. The only time the clutch is abused really is if trying to pick it up in second at higher speeds. I guess it's that word technique again

As for the ruining the clutch, no problem with my first SV with 16000 miles and my current one has almost over 25000 miles and still going strong .
Clutch still is cheaper than a gear box or worse(touch wood) having a really dodgy landing if it slips into nuetral.


...but as they say , different strokes for different folks I guess.

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Old 01-08-06, 09:56 PM   #20
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it wont ruin my gear box.... i dont have the guts to try and slip it into second!

I will try it a few times when i go out next.......what revs do people think are the best for poppin it up then?

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