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Old 01-08-06, 02:58 PM   #11
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wonder if I can do that for a few op's
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Old 01-08-06, 03:05 PM   #12
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So let me get this right?

His wife fies 30 years ago of cancer.
He works his whole life, pays tax on his wages that pays for his hospital treatment.

His wife would have been taxed on her wages, then taxed on her death and will..

He carries on the next 30 years, working his life, still paying his taxes.

The time comes he needs to use the NHS, and its for a vital reason or he'll die. But the NHS say you have to wait, in which time, u'll die anyway...

Why do i pay national insurance?????????????? For me to wait a year for a vital op, in which time i'll die.

But dont pay tax, and they will put me in jail. Hey, least i might get my vital op in time though....

Good on him i say.


I don't want to pay national insurance anymore, it doesn't get me anything. Go private on everything, you might live then.......

What does my national insruance go on again? Oh thats right, no-one really knows... At least in the USA they get an itemised type billing saying what taxes have gone on what......

God damn i hate this country, can I get out to where i want to go though, of course not.....
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Old 01-08-06, 03:09 PM   #13
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Daimo. When you had your bike crash, did you get taken to hospital?

As for the bloke, thats fraud, and im sure that they will stop that, buy paying up fornt before all types of operations.
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Old 01-08-06, 03:11 PM   #14
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I'm sort of amazed they didn't wait for the cheque to clear to be honest, I do that if I sell something on Ebay never mind selling someone an £8000 heart op
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Old 01-08-06, 03:15 PM   #15
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That's cos yer Scottish.
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Old 01-08-06, 03:18 PM   #16
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Nah, that's because so many people that buy stuff off me are thieving Englishmen
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Old 01-08-06, 03:25 PM   #17
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But dont pay tax, and they will put me in jail.
Not so. Only if you fraudulently declare a tax return will you be liable for imprisonment. Simply not paying will mean they'll come after you to attempt to recover their loss by seizing any assets you may have.

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As for the bloke, thats fraud
True. But consider this: had they prosecuted then the adverse publicity would have been huge. Not only would the NHS have been made to look like the evil empire, but so would that particular hospital too. For eight grand they've had damage limitation and the hospital itself actually looks quite good by accepting £25 per week. Rather than being a huge national story, this way they've kept it to the sidelines.

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I'm sort of amazed they didn't wait for the cheque to clear to be honest
I'm sure they'll be looking at their methods a little more closely after this, so don't start planning anything .


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Old 01-08-06, 03:26 PM   #18
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I'm sort of amazed they didn't wait for the cheque to clear to be honest, I do that if I sell something on Ebay never mind selling someone an £8000 heart op
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised by that too.

I doubt anyone else will get away with it that easily - but hats off to him.

The thing with the NHS is it's all swings and roundabouts (when it should be slides and see saws ).

OK, so he put everyone on the 'legitimate' waiting list back a slot. But the money generated would also have done some good in some small way too. Enough to balance it out - probably, well no, definately not - but therein lies the problem.

Money.

Can't live with it, can't live without it.

For an entity (the NHS) which has no real definable 'product' to have to meet specific targets like a commercial company is an untenable situation. But it exists. So what are they going to do? - damned either way.


It maybe a mess, but I for one am still glad we've got it.
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Old 01-08-06, 03:33 PM   #19
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Daimo mate stop complaining. Your tax money is feeding Africans and killing Iraqis. You're meant to be grateful.
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Old 01-08-06, 03:39 PM   #20
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NHS is very good from my own experience. At least the man on the street can get medical care regardless of age, rank or station in life.

Just a kickball for here today gone tomorrow politicians and it pays the price.
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