Un-restrcited bike..

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by lynw

I cant be arsed to find the link but you e.d. posted it recently - Avon and Somerset police are testing for this, was called operation Torque. With only 2 out of 30 bikes and mopeds stopped and tested being ok I can see this will be repeated and spread to other forces.

Lynw , I don't think all the thirty (bikes and mopeds) failed because of power issues.

That is not to say I don't see your point . Just pointing that out but of course I could be wrong :P

Cheers
Ben

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by ugp

Dont want to step on anyones toes being a newbie, however, its been mentioned god knows how many times before about people riding de restricted bikes on a restricted license, and every time someone even whispers it, theres a battle on. Im sure Abyss is aware of what could happen, its been mentioned so many times before.

Agreed it has come up before and no doubt it will again. But some people seem to think that its OK to ride a derestricted bike on the road with a 33bhp license.

Personally I don't care what you do. However if you post on a forum about it. Its a bit rich IMHO to expect people not to pass comment.

If you're going to break the law thats fine all well and good. But to shout about it on an internet forum is probably a bit daft don't you think. Especially an internet forum that has Police Officers as regular forum members.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by lynw

I cant be arsed to find the link but you e.d. posted it recently - Avon and Somerset police are testing for this, was called operation Torque. With only 2 out of 30 bikes and mopeds stopped and tested being ok I can see this will be repeated and spread to other forces.

Bearing in mind if it does, if you get stopped on an unrestricted SV you will probably have the bike seized [they also seized 6 bikes in the above operation btw]. Firstly because you aren't licenced to be riding it. Secondly, it has invalidated your insurance.

Lie to the insurers and yourself that its ok by all means, just dont come on here if you bin it and youre found out or youre stopped and the bike is seized. You will get no sympathy if that happens as you made a deliberate choice to do this. Equally you will get very little sympathy if you get caught doing over a hundred and get a ban. Rather than complain about it not going fast enough, take a step back and appreciate you had a control that could stop you losing your licence very quickly.

Ask for a deffered inspection if you get stopped at a time convienient to you in the next 30 days (when you've restricted it again).
They can only stop you from leaving if your bike is not roadworthy - which BHP would not affect.

This is from posts on the internet - rely on it at your risk.

[21QUEST]

The speed limit is 70. Do your unrestricted test if you want to be able to go twist and be gone. A quick , cheap and legal way to sort out not beinbg able to accelerate from 70 plus etc is to sit at 65 or under. No?

The same can be said for 50 , 125 scooters etc. They have less acceleration. If you are not old enough then tough or sell the bike and wait till you are older.

Sorry not trying to get on anyones case. As has been mentioned , it's your license etc. I just don't see the sense in people posting about it. If you want to take the risk then fine but maybe best to keep it to yourself.

Cheers
Ben

Edit: Fizz posted while I was writting

Agreed it has come up before and no doubt it will again. But some people seem to think that its OK to ride a derestricted bike on the road with a 33bhp license.

Personally I don't care what you do. However if you post on a forum about it. Its a bit rich IMHO to expect people not to pass comment.

If you're going to break the law thats fine all well and good. But to shout about it on an internet forum is probably a bit daft don't you think. Especially an internet forum that has Police Officers as regular forum members.

Yep I agree totally, but dont people get sick of hearing it? As youve said its silly to mention it if you dont want people to pass comment, at the end of the day though, im sure they are aware its breaking the law.

I think the idea of Abyss' post was to comment on how different the bike feels when it isnt restricted, not to rub in the fact he will keep it like that, nor to start a war on running full power bikes on a restricted license.

This just seems sill to me... we all get carved up by people... its more annoying when your trying to keep to the limits. Well all have had to go though things to get the license we have today, patience. I myself have done stupid things (and 9 points to show for it) but speed is not the things that makes you a biker. Its riding in the snow you soft Nancy boy (oh feisty Grinch), so when you come back to me and told me about how you had to stop and scrap the compacted ice/snow off you lights and gear then I might re-think my views.

Was that harsh? Oh well... back to me pipe and slippers.

(normal days I ride at no more then 7k, loads of power... its all about how you use it)

Righty... comments on the above.

The issue wasnt about sitting at 80 / 85 as thats what i normally do with no problems, the issues were that more than once today being able to accelerate past the car on my left to pull back into the 1st / middle lane could of saved me alot of annoyance with basards sitting right on my tail (normally doesnt bother me but couple of people today were REALLY taking the ****)

This post wasnt about 'Oooo im great and im going to be running a de-restricted bike on my restricted licence becuase its so cool'. As ugp just said, it was more of a comment to say how much difference it makes, not top speed and normally it never comes into play but how much smoother the ride is (slower speeds) and how much more confidence inspiring it is at higher speeds.

Another point is anything about 80 is uncomfortable with no fairing so again pointing out that im not interested in sitting at stupid speeds.

I won't sit here and judge you mate, we've all broken the law at one point or another. All I will say is I thnk you should put the kit back on and wait until you can do it legally, it really is not worth the potential risk.

Dan

Originally Posted by Grinch

This just seems sill to me... we all get carved up by people... its more annoying when your trying to keep to the limits. Well all have had to go though things to get the license we have today, patience. I myself have done stupid things (and 9 points to show for it) but speed is not the things that makes you a biker. Its riding in the snow you soft Nancy boy (oh feisty Grinch), so when you come back to me and told me about how you had to stop and scrap the compacted ice/snow off you lights and gear then I might re-think my views.

Was that harsh? Oh well... back to me pipe and slippers.

I bet 99% of bikers don't ride in snow! This isn't a thread about being a real biker.


I doubt most bikers on the road are 100% legal, admittedly riding a bike you're not licensed to ride is taking the p*ss. It's his choice, even if I disapprove of it.

Something to add aswell... I never said anywhere that I will be keeping the bike un-restricted or restircted. For those that would like to know I dont plan on keeping it unrestricted.

The thing i dont quite understand is some peoples comments on the 'restricted / un-restricted' issue, of course the obvious point is that its illegal and I completely understand that but other than that it all gets abit silly.

Normal Bike Test + DAS test train and test you on exactly the same thing, only difference is the guy doing DAS sits on a 500 and the guy doing the normal test sits on a 125cc.... since its a test the 500 cant really be used at high speeds.

What makes the guy who hasnt done DAS more dangerous than the guy that has? The bike is heavier, the bike is more powerful but weight you very quickly get used to and that guy on the DAS hasnt even tested the power of it.

Pointless.

My 2p