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Old 18-08-06, 02:51 PM   #11
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LOL! That's a good argument!
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Old 18-08-06, 02:57 PM   #12
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I agree with Flamin Squirrel...but I can't justify myself. I know you can have midrange and upper range torque so it's not just low rev.
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Old 18-08-06, 02:58 PM   #13
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but in practice this will cause either wheelspin, or wheelies or both...
And the problem is ...
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Old 18-08-06, 03:40 PM   #14
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Two points of reference for those with a thirst for knowledge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html


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Jonboy, couldn't really follow the first one, but the 2nd one was great - and it's not looking good for sdusk as it pretty much contradicts him and supports FS.

And it answered all my questions above, thanks.

So if I understand correct, Torque is what you feel, but HP gets you results in terms of top speed, 1/4 mile times etc?

Bring on the torque of an SV I say!
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Old 18-08-06, 04:19 PM   #15
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All you need to fully explain Torque is the following:

It's a bad film, don't watch it.

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Old 18-08-06, 04:25 PM   #16
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Torque is what you feel,
No, thats Grease.

Remember:
'Grease is the time, is the place, is the motion
Grease is the way we are feeling'
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Old 18-08-06, 04:31 PM   #17
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...Stuff...

That's completely wrong.
Now I may have been a dab more diplomatic about it, but generally speaking I would agree with The Squirrel on this. If anything forget about HP.

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Sid Squid and Embee will doubtless be along to give chapter and verse, and to um, twist your thoughts accordingly .
Aaaarrrggghhh, don't give up your day job Greg.

Anyhoo, thanks for the vote of confidence but I sincerely doubt I could improve upon the ease of understanding provided by this:

Click Me For Embee's (yet again), Excellent Explanation
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Old 18-08-06, 05:51 PM   #18
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Grecian9, how can you agree Flamin Squirrel when he/she has not put forward any argument at all? I made quite a few points, and I will dissect them later on.

Stu, each to their own I like my front wheel on the ground for fast getaways (well mostly...).

Jonboy, the links are both opinions - just as this forum is opinions. A better definition would have perhaps been a real encyclopedia.

However to quote the Wikepedia: "Torque is part of the basic specification of an engine: the power output of an engine is expressed as its torque multiplied by its rotational speed." Okay, so we start with power, and we take away the rotation part to give us torque (or vice versa - start with Torque and multiply it by rotation to give us power). Does anyone spot the problem? No rotation = static (as I mentioned before). Now, who thinks they can 'feel' something static? When your engine gives that big shove at 7,000rpm, I think it might be rotating, so it is the power you are feeling.
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Old 18-08-06, 05:52 PM   #19
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the buell xb12r has great torque, my mate did a stretch of road in bridgenorth the other day in 5th gear from 30mph up to 120mph without changing it gives one more time to admire the countryside views
he also said it was pulling his arms out all the way up the speedo.
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Old 18-08-06, 05:59 PM   #20
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Grecian9 wrote stuff
Stu wrote stuff
Jonboy wrote stuff
Hey, what about K...

what about me.....
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