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Old 10-09-06, 05:12 PM   #11
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Let's bring back the good old days, when drivers had some passion & feeling for the sport - not just for the paycheque.
I totally agree get rid of all the electronics and driver aids to and go back to when cars were driven by real men instead of boys.

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Old 10-09-06, 05:16 PM   #12
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Let's bring back the good old days, when drivers had some passion & feeling for the sport - not just for the paycheque.
I totally agree get rid of all the electronics and driver aids to and go back to when cars were driven by real men instead of boys.

When I were a lad...............
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Old 10-09-06, 05:17 PM   #13
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When I were a lad...............
Cheeky fecker. Oh god I'm turning into TimWilky...
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Old 10-09-06, 05:42 PM   #14
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Can't take it away from him, he was fast and could drive around the odd problem with the car. Problem is his racing was a dull as Pedrosas happy face.

For sheer driving ability he's questionable. Senna tops my list in ability and consistency by for entertainment Mansell wins it hands down with Jacque Villleneuve very close behind. Schumacker is lucky, how many of his 'victories' were handed to him by his own team mates? Also it 'seems' like Ferrari have the governing body on the payroll even if they do not. With the qualifying problems that led to a five place penalty for Alonso to the mass damper.
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Old 10-09-06, 06:16 PM   #15
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Problem is his racing was a dull as Pedrosas happy face.
When someone dominates a sport people get a little tired and then look to see them fall instead of appreciating the talent the person has.

So what is any winner to do,even Valentino? Actually dress and act like a clown whilst they race? Get real. Schumaker dominated at times without shenanigans and so with his typical Arian withdrawn ways people saw him as dull outside of the car. But in truth what does any of that matter? Your never gonna go out for a pint with him anyway! :P

Senna would for sure of dented Michael's record, but he too was never shy of the odd dubious antic.
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I don't think his racing is dull. His car control is sublime. He makes what he does look easy. What makes it dull is that when he's on it. Nobody can get near him so he totally dominates the races.

I think he shows his emotions well. He had tears on his face in the press conferance today. I remember him bursting into tears a few years back when he passed Senna's record of Race Victories. He knows his F1 history and what those numbers mean. He also got told of for celebrating to much on the podium and I remember he used to conduct during the Italian National athem until he got told off for doing it.

Peters right, Senna himself was never shy of the odd dubious moment. I think the trouble is that Senna you could see that often those dubious moments would be unplanned. Except for the year he punted prost off the track to win the championship. Which he said he was going to do before the race started. Remember the year he crashed at Monaco when in the lead.. He hid in his house and nobody heard from him for days afterwards. I think the difference is Senna had more charisma, more emotion. I think that at times Michael can be robot like. He is or appears to be more calculating that the other drivers. He's certainly ruthless behind the wheel, but thats what makes him a winner. Nice guys don't win races. Something that Jenson and DC should remember.
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Just my view. I'll think a tad longer before posting next time on this type of thread. I don't like confrontations
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Just my view. I'll think a tad longer before posting next time on this type of thread. I don't like confrontations
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I'm with Fizz on this one. Senna was much more emotional about it, inside and outside of the car; he wasn't the cleanest of drivers on track, far from it, but like Fizz said, his antics resulted from direct confrontation in the heat of the race, maybe what we'd call "the red myst". Schumacher's antics are planned, almost cold-blooded; throwing Damon Hill against the wall in Australia, puntering Jacques Villeneuve, parking his car at the Rascasse in Monaco, etc,... not the same "class" antics. No doubt about his car control, though. He showed that since his F1 debuts with Jordan, and even before that in Sport Protos with Sauber Mercedes and team-mate Karl Wendlinger (btw, where's he now?...).
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