In at work at the moment, did look at this last night but didn't have time to answer it properly (all that quote stuff takes time), I've got about 20 minutes whilst the network probe gathers data, so here goes.
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OK, I’ve just spent at least 10 minutes writing this, I expect some good replies.
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I shall do my best but sarah aint in today to join in 
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I’m sure she’ll be along shortly
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What I can make out is,
Unless your tyre is worn like a track or race tyre, you’re a B*llsh*tter. (According to two contributors apparently)
Which as you maybe able to tell I don’t agree with,
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not quite what I am saying but ok I can understand how you got that from what I have typed
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I smell a dirty doggy dodo!(bull**** scores more than doggy do)
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Ok what does that mean then ?
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]even with spirited road riding thrown in it wouldn’t result in the type of wear Joe expects.(not many corners are like clearways/ Clark's in the real world).
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I am not expecting to see the sort of wear from a road tyre that you get on a raced/tracked tyre,
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From your previous comments that’s less that clear.
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I get better lean angles on my thundershat!
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I would have expected higher wear at about 3/4 lean, the same as you get on race bikes
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You have also seen the trye wear that occors when you exit clearways really fast spinning the rear, you get wear 3/4 or the way accross the tyre on the right hand side.
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road/work & commuting use is totally different to track use
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agreed
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As I said previously, I don’t believe you can do that to a road tyre safely, apart from as you say Road racing, so we can agree on this point then I take it ?
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you to have caused this wear by spinning the rear but not while cranked over
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made no claims of any lean angles, the terms I used was “spin the back up out of corners”.
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Instead you have to roll on throttle through the apex and when the bike has a fairly straight line out and is mostly upright, only then can you gun it inducing power wheel spin off the throttle and control it,
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you were the only one mentioning “cranked over”
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Having gone through 7-8 rears each year, none have worn the same as Joe suggests,
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Mark if I had seen any of your tyres being worn anything like you percieve me to have been suggesting I would offer you a little more respect, and question your statements less.
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Joe if commanding your respect requires riding on public roads to that extent, I’ll pass thanks. O and feel free to question anything, but surely you don’t need me to tell you that.
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Not believing the Triumph can wheel spin of the throttle alone, just shows they haven’t owned a 140bhp triumph before, so I can sort of understand that being unbelievable to them, true though it is (well Ok a bit of exaggeration
there, 138.9 bhp in truth)
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well you are right, I have never owned a triumph,
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I find it hard to believe that anyone knows what my Speedo indicated at full wack, as even I didn’t, not taking in to account svracer knowledge (or lack) of the modifications made to my bike, when you consider I don’t think I’ve ever been introduce or been on a ride out with her ? Apart from an uninformed opinion, I can’t see how she would know whether it was true or not. Perhaps coming from a 72bhp SV race bike her perceptions are different?
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I shall leave this one for sarah I think
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As for sarah does an R1 count as a fast enough and powerfull enough bike for her to base her arguments on? Just coz she races a 'slow' bike
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I’m reluctant to comment on things I don’t have all the facts on, but if drawn,
Surely she should know 170 is more that possible on the speedo, but doesn’t mean the road speed was what was indicated, and riding an R1 this should have been even more evident, unless of course the speedo has been calibrated to be more accurate than factory.
I had an indicated 140 on the SV speedo and with three gps’s they only indicated 131, and I know the error increases the faster the speedo reads.
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And as you can read even Joe’s mistyped post about 70-80% better ability, rather that just call it b*llsh*t, I chose to point out what his error could have been, allowing him to correct or explain, but then that’s just me, I suppose.
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hey I did ask you to "clarify" as I was obviously having dificulties understanding what you were suggesting, so don't get all righteous and holier than thou on me.
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Bad choice of words, I’m agnostic so “Holier” isn’t something I’m ever going to be, but I haven’t called anyone a b*llsh*er, so far.
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And as for Ego, well being a timid person, I have to make grandiose claims on the forum, as I don’t say much when at the meets
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maybe, maybe not. I am not gonna get into a slaging match with ya.
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Seems you are already, but I’d call it lively debate.
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I do know a fair amount as you do about riding
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To be honest Joe I’ve only ever followed you when I’ve been on an SV650 and you on better handling and more powerful machinery , so am reluctant to comment.
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perhaps I’m getting old and slow these days,
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although on these occasions I pretty much matched your pace even on what was it you called the SV ? o Yeah a "slow bike".
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perhaps as you are an old f*rt now you 'know' more than me?, |
I was unaware I'd claimed more knowledge than you ? but thinking about it ??????
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perhaps you being an old f*rt have forgotten things and are loosing your marbles , |
Could be true ? but fortunately I’ve still retained enough to carry on riding for a few more years yet.
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you believe as I have not owened a triumph(does that bit matter)
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I’m sure you noticed the difference in power characteristics between the V twin TL and the Thundercat IL4, would you claim them to be the same ?
Though not, well a triumph triple is something different to both ( and a modified one even more so), and judging by your responses perhaps being familiar with them would make my comments more understandable to you.
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so what do you say we call it at we are different people that have different thoughts and do things in different ways?!?
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If you insist, although I do enjoy this and reserve the right to reply to svracers comment, which she will no doubt add.
How's that, got to go, I'll try to re-visit this afternoon for rebuttal
Cheers Mark.
There's also a "U" rating so please respect this. Newbies can also say "hello" here too.
29-09-06, 02:35 PM
Would have taken me 20 hours. No actually it wouldn't have taken me anytime at all as I wouldn't have had the patience. 
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