bloody lights!

Might as well join the rant.

High beams, rear fog lights when it is not foggy enough, blind me when I'm on the road and are very rude.

I use flashing hazards when I'm filtering and most people get out of the way (without being blinded).

I also often filter daylight only with full beams - usually through slower moving traffic on anything more that dual lanes. If I'm in the car I often notice bikers doing it which is why I have adopted the practice - have never been blinded by it.

Originally Posted by Law

High beams, rear fog lights when it is not foggy enough, blind me when I'm on the road and are very rude.

I use flashing hazards when I'm filtering and most people get out of the way (without being blinded).

And if you don't have hazards?

So I guess I'm rude then. Ah well, nothing new there!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Law

I use flashing hazards when I'm filtering and most people get out of the way (without being blinded).

Nice to see someone owning up to actually breaking the law then
It is illegal to use hazard lights when moving (certain exceptions permitted). Most likely to lead to problems if someone sees one side of you and thinks you are indicating that way.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by sv_dan

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And if you don't have hazards?

Get a proper bike! :P

Originally Posted by Stu

Get a proper bike! :P

Don't make me come over there!

Originally Posted by sv_dan

But it surely cannot be that bad that you cannot see anything through your front windscreen? It helps me as I've noticed the cars move over and I'll take any help I can get on a busy M25!

Yes it really can be that bad. The light bounces off the side mirrors AND the rear-view mirror which can (and has to me personally) dazzle the driver. This forces me to hit the brakes because I cannot see what is going on in front of me.

Originally Posted by sv_dan

Yes, daytime only. Height of rudeness? . I ride everyday and having them on when filtering makes a big difference, especially when driving in fog or rain. I also only use them on the M'way. But then I guess I'm astill being rude eh!? Ah well, I can take being called rude if it means I get noticed on the busy highway of death (otherwise known as the M25).

Commuting on the M25 doesn't give you the right to be so rude or dangerous. I've watched car drivers who are forced to take their attention off the road in front of them to change their mirrors because of bikers who have full beam on. Yes you've been seen, but at the detriment of the road users around you, including yourself.

You use high beams in foggy conditions? Do you want to reduce what you can see?

Originally Posted by Stu

Nice to see someone owning up to actually breaking the law then
It is illegal to use hazard lights when moving (certain exceptions permitted). Most likely to lead to problems if someone sees one side of you and thinks you are indicating that way.

Doesn't matter, even did it filtering past a cop car. I only do it(hazards not filtering) for 30ish mph filtering through very congested stationary lanes (I am a hazard see). Admittedly seeing only one side is a problem but then bikes are quite narrow and I'll prob be on their bumper in that view.

Yes I use them in fog rain, snow, sleet. But only when filtering and I turn them off when I move back in.

Some of you really do make me chuckle, just out of interest do you stare at the sun and then complain that's it's too bright?

Well each to their own and I certainly won't do anything different purely for the fact that it helps me arrive safe at work and not once have I seen any car swerve dangerously or have to emergency brake because they are totally "blinded". Ah the joys of forum debates. Maybe you should adjust your mirrors?

Yup, people on the forum do make me chuckle too. People complain about car drivers attitude and then I see exactly the same attitude in some bikers. 'Hey, I'm going to ride however I want and if anyone else has a problem then tough luck'. Nothing like being a thoughtful road-user is there.