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Old 26-10-06, 01:14 PM   #11
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It also has a lot more engine braking than you'd think, in fact i don't really find myself braking much more than i did on the sv
Strange - I found there was virtually no engine breaking compared to the SV

One thing - I found it a tad small. I'm 6'1 so the riding position gave me cramped knees but IIRC there are adjustable peg settings which may have made a difference.
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Old 26-10-06, 01:33 PM   #12
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Gotta agree with RizlaSV on this one - my gsx-r has plenty of engine braking, not as much as the SV admittedly, but certainly more than you would expect.

Yes it does have adjustable pegs, though I haven't tried different settings yet.
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Old 26-10-06, 02:23 PM   #13
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In bike terms its a great middle weight bike. Nimble and speedy as you'd expect from a dedicated sports. Almost certainly a complete world apart from what you're used to.

It isnt as comfortable mind. Especially at slow speeds.

I've gone right off the SS bikes though. I've a different agenda. Distance touring, comfort, pillion and fun for the weekend. I'm going the blackbird, busa, zx12r genre route. I'm leaning towards the busa though.
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Old 26-10-06, 02:28 PM   #14
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It isnt as comfortable mind. Especially at slow speeds.
agree - although comfort isn't too bad, the sv was definitely the better bike to spend an evening down in soho on - 8 hrs on the gixxer makes your bum go a bit numb!
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Old 26-10-06, 05:32 PM   #15
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Definitely get one.

Easier to ride than an SV without a doubt. Infact I'd even recommend one (and any SS600) over the SV for a newly qualified DAS rider - providing they have self control...

I personally believe that you need a bit more experience and confidence to ride the SV.

The K6/K7 looks the dogs ********, I'd love one.
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Old 26-10-06, 05:42 PM   #16
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Definitely get one.

Easier to ride than an SV without a doubt. Infact I'd even recommend one (and any SS600) over the SV for a newly qualified DAS rider - providing they have self control...

I personally believe that you need a bit more experience and confidence to ride the SV.

The K6/K7 looks the dogs ********, I'd love one.
What a load of ********.
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Old 26-10-06, 05:45 PM   #17
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Easier to ride than an SV without a doubt. Infact I'd even recommend one (and any SS600) over the SV for a newly qualified DAS rider - providing they have self control...

I personally believe that you need a bit more experience and confidence to ride the SV.
Gotta disagree here. Yes in some ways the GSX-R is easier to ride but it is also a hell of a lot easier to get into trouble with it. The SV is a much better machine for someone new to big bikes - its a lot more forgiving, fun to ride, not too agressive, cheaper to insure, cheaper to maintain and cheaper to buy bits for.

As a step up from the SV, its an excellent one but straight after a DAS course? Definitely not.
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Old 26-10-06, 07:48 PM   #18
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Gotta agree with Kate on this. The SV has a wonderful smooth progressive power delivery, predictable handling (in 'normal' use). I found my Gixer easy to ride probably because I got to ride my SV first. As Kate states, you can get in to a lot of trouble much quicker on the Gixer, unless you have a gift (I don't) there really is no substitute for experience.
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Old 26-10-06, 08:12 PM   #19
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Gotta agree with Kate on this. The SV has a wonderful smooth progressive power delivery, predictable handling (in 'normal' use). I found my Gixer easy to ride probably because I got to ride my SV first. As Kate states, you can get in to a lot of trouble much quicker on the Gixer, unless you have a gift (I don't) there really is no substitute for experience.
I've never aspired to being a racer, but I do notice that I've been on a steady road to faster bikes. Started with a 125, then an automatic-transmission 400, then a 750. My SV 650 is so much lighter than the 750, and good power too, so it's much faster.

I think I might get a really fast bike in a few years, who knows. But I sure wouldn't have wanted to start out on a really fast ride. As Kate and Beenz point out, a twist of the wrist on a supersport is going to have huge, dangerous consequences for a newbie. I've got three sons almost at driving age, and there is no way I'll put them on a Gixxer.
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Old 27-10-06, 07:57 AM   #20
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Gotta agree with Kate on this. The SV has a wonderful smooth progressive power delivery, predictable handling (in 'normal' use). I found my Gixer easy to ride probably because I got to ride my SV first. As Kate states, you can get in to a lot of trouble much quicker on the Gixer, unless you have a gift (I don't) there really is no substitute for experience.
I've never aspired to being a racer, but I do notice that I've been on a steady road to faster bikes. Started with a 125, then an automatic-transmission 400, then a 750. My SV 650 is so much lighter than the 750, and good power too, so it's much faster.

I think I might get a really fast bike in a few years, who knows. But I sure wouldn't have wanted to start out on a really fast ride. As Kate and Beenz point out, a twist of the wrist on a supersport is going to have huge, dangerous consequences for a newbie. I've got three sons almost at driving age, and there is no way I'll put them on a Gixxer.
IMO there's a lot to be said for starting on smaller bikes and building up to faster ones. let's face it anyone can be quick on an R1 by relying on the power, but to be fast on something smaller means that you have to think a lot more about what you're doing and can make you a better rider for it. also as Kate says you're less likely to get yourself into trouble that you're not experienced enough to get you out of

that said i have wondered about the suitability of the SV over say a Hornet for a brand new rider, what with the harsher engine braking, power delivery etc. but the plus side to this is that you get to ride a damn cool bike and learn a lot about being smooth!!
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