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Old 19-01-07, 04:50 PM   #11
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Here are some figures which may be of interests to you guys.
UK population: 60 million
NHS: £92 billion cost (£7.5 billion prescribing costs)
Primary care (GP): 261 million consultation
Secondary care: 13 million outpatients and 8.5 million admissions

As we can see, a lot of cost goes towards GP (jack of all trade doctor)/primary care

More alarming figure:
11% of hospital admissions are due to treatment error (why would your GP tell ya that when they eventually refer you to the right people, and in some cases too late)

average 4 person die through prescribing mistakes in UK per HOUR. That's death number of 35,040 per year in UK. (official figure from medical journal)

so perceived responsibility from public is one thing, actual incompetence leading to serious illness and death are mostly gone unquestioned.

100k, i would take that responsibility any time.
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Old 19-01-07, 05:13 PM   #12
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My GP wasn't too bad, but he made me question him several times... i used to get bad headaches and black outs, not had them for years since, but he kept phobing me off saying to take paracetamol every time i had a headache (didn't work), so i nagged him long enough to send me for tests as i would be knocked off my feet for days. they eventually said i had clustered headaches... which is just another way of saying i get a lot of headaches

I also went over there a few years ago as i had shortness of breath and pain in my side, (i had not long before that broken a rib and it felt similar), so trotted over there, and he poked me about a bit as they do, sent me home again saying to be careful and take some asprin or paracetamol as he couldn't hear anything in my chest... eventually went to hospital from the pain and it turned out i had broken my rib again after playing hockey (broken the same rib 7 times in total now).

I just felt like the care they gave at the surgery made me feel like i was on a conveyor belt of patients getting as many in and out of the door as possible. but then my surgery recieved a lot of complaints about their patient care and diagnosis.
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Old 19-01-07, 05:13 PM   #13
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I thought this was going to be a thread about racing!
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Old 19-01-07, 05:15 PM   #14
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I just felt like the care they gave at the surgery made me feel like i was on a conveyor belt of patients getting as many in and out of the door as possible. but then my surgery recieved a lot of complaints about their patient care and diagnosis.
I hear that a lot actually. An old surgery of ours was the same, which is why we don't go there.

I must just be lucky
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Old 19-01-07, 05:17 PM   #15
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our USA friends ain't doing much better, but then again, their GP equivalent don't get paid that much.

http://www.worstpills.org/public/page.cfm?op_id=4

770,000 adverse drug events due to misprescribing per year in USA, out of which 100,000 death as a result, that is 11/hour death as a result of prescribing.
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Old 19-01-07, 05:20 PM   #16
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Our GPs just wanna make more money than the actors in Casualty.
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Old 19-01-07, 05:23 PM   #17
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you have a cold, you make appointment, and by the time you get seen, you've probably already near recovery.
You make a doctor's appointment for a cold? My GP's very good and usually available. I see him more than most people and wouldn't hear a word against the service.

What you're overlooking is that that's average profits. That's average, and profits. A lot of GPs are partners or owners of a practice. You don't complain if the owner of a business takes home significant profits. They don't get paid on average £100,000 just for being a GP. Also, that average is skewed upwards by some that earn huuuuuge amounts.
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Old 19-01-07, 05:28 PM   #18
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No, i don't. but as company policy doctor's note is needed everytime someone takes sick leave for more than 3 days. so that got to be pretty high on the list of things GP have to do?
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Old 19-01-07, 06:08 PM   #19
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3 days? That's unusual... Not to mention pretty impractical, for the resaons you said up the page... But that's not the GP's fault.
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Old 19-01-07, 06:14 PM   #20
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my doctor wouldn't sign a doctors note until you had been sick for a week... that doesn't work too well with work policy. even then wouldn't you need to see the doctor to be classed as sick, and even then some appointments at my gp can take up to 2 weeks to get glad i changed now, and the surgery near where i am now living isn't too bad.
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