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Old 01-02-07, 02:46 PM   #11
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I'm fine installing it as I have a spare hard drive to run linux on

I think my main "concern" is to be able to have a usable GUI similar to Windows to assist me in transition and at the same time learn obviously a bit more about the console.

Typical things I do is Internet, Install applications, download stuff, kind of the advanced Windows user if makes any sense to you all

I think the must is the very very friendly GUI

At the moment my home PC has WINDOWS XP and Mandrake on, but if Ubuntu is more user friendly for us newbs I'll put that instead of mandrake
Ubuntu would do that find, but then, so would Mandrake. There's no need to change to do that, unless something didn't quite go right in the Mandrake install.

With Ubuntu Live, you get Firefox & Evolution (web & mail) built in. Synaptic will deal with installing/removing everything natively available to Ubuntu in a couple of clicks of the mouse. OpenOffice will deal with your MicroSoft Office related tasks (and is compatible with the MSOffice files!) No need to even bother running off to the shops to get hold of the software, so long as you're connected to the internet.

Of course, all of this applies to most of the desktop distro's out there, not just limited to Ubuntu, but the names of different applications that do the same job change.
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Old 01-02-07, 02:49 PM   #12
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Ubuntu would do that find, but then, so would Mandrake. There's no need to change to do that, unless something didn't quite go right in the Mandrake install.
With Mandrake you don't get a GUI to install things so you have to do it via console. A bit of a big step for a newb I think. Tried it to install java for example and that messed up my firefox big time No need to mention trying to install firefox2......erm that was a big no go LOL

Hence why I would like to have a GUI to do all that at this early stage.
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Old 01-02-07, 03:07 PM   #13
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True, yes... But I still find it p*ss easier to us now, I was surprised how easy as a few years ago I tried and just couldn't be arsed.

I would say give it a go, the worst that is going to happen is you'll just put Windows back on.
Any recommendations on a flavour that can host Oracle without too many problems? Ideally one that can also be stored as a vmware image too, without to many headaches?

TIA.
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Old 01-02-07, 03:11 PM   #14
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Ubuntu would do that find, but then, so would Mandrake. There's no need to change to do that, unless something didn't quite go right in the Mandrake install.
With Mandrake you don't get a GUI to install things so you have to do it via console. A bit of a big step for a newb I think. Tried it to install java for example and that messed up my firefox big time No need to mention trying to install firefox2......erm that was a big no go LOL

Hence why I would like to have a GUI to do all that at this early stage.
That's something I wasn't aware about with Mandrake.

I setup Ubuntu on my dad's machine a few days ago. I can confirm it's a GUI installer, and there's something like 4 screens to it. It'll pretty much setup everything for you.

As for java, I write in java for work, and we use the Eclipse IDE, which is entirely written in java itself. I merely downloaded Eclipse (it's not part of Ubuntu) and it ran happily (java doesn't come with it, but it depends on java). I didn't check which version it is, but I'd imagine it's either 1.4 or 5.
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Old 01-02-07, 04:06 PM   #15
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True, yes... But I still find it p*ss easier to us now, I was surprised how easy as a few years ago I tried and just couldn't be arsed.

I would say give it a go, the worst that is going to happen is you'll just put Windows back on.
Any recommendations on a flavour that can host Oracle without too many problems? Ideally one that can also be stored as a vmware image too, without to many headaches?

TIA.
You might find that Oracle will bring out its own flavour of Linux.
In the mean time, I would look at RHEL or CentOS.

here is something to get you started mate.

http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Or...LINUX_12.shtml
http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Or...USTER_10.shtml

wrt security, Vista is, and never will be more secure than Linux. Nor will XP. Nor, I would imagine, will any closed source OS, unless it is highly obscure.
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Old 01-02-07, 04:18 PM   #16
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True, yes... But I still find it p*ss easier to us now, I was surprised how easy as a few years ago I tried and just couldn't be arsed.

I would say give it a go, the worst that is going to happen is you'll just put Windows back on.
Any recommendations on a flavour that can host Oracle without too many problems? Ideally one that can also be stored as a vmware image too, without to many headaches?

TIA.
I would say don't... bloody Oracle just causes me headaches. Not played with vmware yet, but I have seen threads about it on the ubuntu forum.
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Old 01-02-07, 04:32 PM   #17
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A mate of mine has Oracle running away fine with his big CentOS cluster.
No problems at all he says.

There are RPMs, it just works apparently.
(I dont use it, because I want fast SELECT speed, so I use MySQL.)
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Old 01-02-07, 04:39 PM   #18
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Debian for choice here - which is Ubuntu for men

Best way to think of it is

SV650N-X1 - Debian
SV650S-K6 - Ubuntu

I would say Ubuntu for a newbie tho.

Mind you, as I have gnome installed you would be hard pushed to know its not Ubuntu at a glance

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True, yes... But I still find it p*ss easier to us now, I was surprised how easy as a few years ago I tried and just couldn't be arsed.

I would say give it a go, the worst that is going to happen is you'll just put Windows back on.
Any recommendations on a flavour that can host Oracle without too many problems? Ideally one that can also be stored as a vmware image too, without to many headaches?

TIA.

Yup, we do this with RHES. We must run about 10 separate oracle instances on VMs
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I think we have made up our minds

Mandrake is comming off and i'm installing ubuntu
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