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Old 21-04-07, 07:56 PM   #11
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Default Re: Engine Brake - Wheel Lock

Yep, but with engine braking you're not locking it, you're just causing it to move slower than it has to so it slides while still moving.
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Old 21-04-07, 08:07 PM   #12
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Scary ? it's one of the reasons I liked mind so much, great fun

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Old 21-04-07, 08:12 PM   #13
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Did it first time I rode a Ducatti. Never on the SV.

Blipping the throttle when changing down to match the engine revs to wheel speed avoids these brown trouser moments.
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Old 21-04-07, 08:18 PM   #14
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It's one of the great things about a vee twin; love blipping the throttle when changing down, and can't wait to change the can to a more melodious one from the stock muffler
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Old 21-04-07, 10:43 PM   #15
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Probably why I went through a rear tyre before 3000 miles all the time
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Old 22-04-07, 04:40 PM   #16
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its the reason i like the bike so much my mate was following me on the cupar to perth road on his 94 gixxer and he said i looked the nuts when the back wheel kicked oot coming down the gears
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Old 22-04-07, 04:51 PM   #17
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Not sure if you are taking the **** here, but surely the rear wheel will slide (move in an unexpected direction) if it is locked.
Don't worry, it's just Northwind being pedantic. The wheel didn't lock, as the bike was in a lower gear it was still moving. It slid as the speed of the road under the tyre was faster than the speed of the tyres rotation.

Doesn't really matter for your purposes, the back end stepped out, which isn't nice until you get used to it.

Then it becomes a bit of a laugh, as long as you aren't in a queue of traffic, cornering in the wet, or feeling nervous and likely to drop it!
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Old 22-04-07, 05:02 PM   #18
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Happened to me in the first week, dropping down to second too abruptly/poor blipping etc, on a greasy road. Needless to say the clutch was promptly disengaged, thankfully before it got too "squirrelly" for a novice to handle.
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Old 22-04-07, 05:41 PM   #19
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I've done it by hitting 1st coming round a roundabout thinking I was going down to 2nd instead.

I've done it lots when I knew I was doing it though. I find that when the rear locks it also skips a little, or maybe that's just me.
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Old 22-04-07, 10:53 PM   #20
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I do it pretty often in the wet on my curvy. That's with a Metezeler M1 Sported tyre on too. It's nothing to worry about if you're expecting it but otherwsie it can be evil.. My last off was essentially due to engine braking. I went to shift from what I thought was 5th to 3rd. I now know I went 4th to 2nd and locked the back wheel. I therefore carried too mush speed into a corner and dropped the bike
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