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Old 08-05-07, 08:44 PM   #11
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Oooh, tough one. I would have looked more seriously at an R6 if it wasn't for the Suzuki insurance deal. I think the R6 looks way more aggressive, the only thing I have a problem with is the standard can (the one on the gixer looks better as standard to me).

IIRC they both rev to the same amount (R6 was supposed to be 18k but then Yamaha admitted to a reading error with their counters, no? So it was actually 16k) so no difference there.

A mate of mine sat on an R6 though, and the tank stuck out too far and obstructed his arms, compared to a GSX-R600.

Are you actually going to buy one or are you just asking questions?
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Old 08-05-07, 09:07 PM   #12
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1 - 600 too revy and i think for me too small.

2 - the thou is a lot of power, and a lot more on insurance. i would prefer to go for the thou but the insurance restricts me, well also the money.

cant really afford any of them. but if i could would probably be a 750. a nice in the middle bike.
Er, why are you trying to bring some common sense into the equation ... we are talking about modern sports bikes here ... none of them make 'sense' ... to me you either want a screamer 600 for thrills and spills and the supersport madness, or a thou to have the best of the best and more power than you will ever need everywhere ... a 750 is neither one nor t-other!

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what's your R6 liek then pic?
Its sitting in the back of the garage totally unloved for the past year or two!!

If you really are that curious, here's a random (well quite a nice*) pic of it when it was loved (at least a bit) though
http://www.braking-zone.com/images/b...s/DSC_5443.jpg

And here's a video of it getting abused like god intended on a cold February afternoon!! you can download it if you scroll to the bottom of the screen and enter the numbers etc ... listen to that b1tch screeeeeeam ... you gotta love super sport 600 bikes ... mental!! http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/164...small-WMV.html

*as it hasn't got much duck-tape on it - that's quite rare!!

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surly they are gona b pritty similar tho just a very very harder ride and stupid red line lol?????
What the Gixer and the R6 or the Carby and the 07 R6?

With 10 years difference in design, the carby and the 07 is going to be a world apart to ride ... but I am just thinking cosmetically here ... lest face it carby or 07, they are still way more than most mortal will ever manage to conquer, so the ride is almost irrelevant!!

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Old 08-05-07, 11:58 PM   #13
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I like the new CBR600RR... R6, IMO, looks daft, hate that front end, and the GSXR looks old. I've not ridden any of the most recent models, but I did read a magazine once which qualifies me to say "Too revvy, too focused for the road, sit in not on, stretch to the bars, too much adjustment, Honda/Suzuki build quality is great/****, racetrack derived technology, euro 3, no space for luggage, superb/poor brakes, Triumph reliability concerns, get a 750."
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Old 09-05-07, 07:01 AM   #14
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Er, why are you trying to bring some common sense into the equation ... we are talking about modern sports bikes here ... none of them make 'sense' ... to me you either want a screamer 600 for thrills and spills and the supersport madness, or a thou to have the best of the best and more power than you will ever need everywhere ... a 750 is neither one nor t-other!
which, whilst being an excellent reason not to get one, is also an excellent reason *to* get one
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Old 09-05-07, 08:35 AM   #15
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I'd go for the R6, but then again I'm biased because I have one! Looks way cooler than the gsxr's. Easy to get bits for on ebay as there are so many raced - bought a second hand tank for 40 quid - needs a large dent coaxing out of it, but not too bad!

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IIRC they both rev to the same amount (R6 was supposed to be 18k but then Yamaha admitted to a reading error with their counters, no? So it was actually 16k) so no difference there.
Not exactly - Yamaha 'jazzed' up it's rpm figures to sell bikes, but if you tested all the current crop of 600's you'll find they all have. The R6 still revs higher than the CBR, GSXR and ZX6R, but not quite the 17.5k they claimed.

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A mate of mine sat on an R6 though, and the tank stuck out too far and obstructed his arms, compared to a GSX-R600.
Hmm, never had a problem with this. I actually prefer the tank on the R6 because the sides are concave, so it feels like you can really lock your leg into the tank when hanging off. GSXR is more convex, which just doesn't feel as nice.

I also found the seat really low on the GSXR. I know you can play around with the ride height, but I felt oversized (about 6ft) on the GSXR.
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Old 09-05-07, 08:43 AM   #16
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the gixxer

600 or 750? ? ? dunno

let blue & rik fight it out
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Old 09-05-07, 08:52 AM   #17
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the gixxer

600 or 750? ? ? dunno

let blue & rik fight it out
Point is - even the 600 is OTT (in the real world), so from that point on any 'reasoning' to do with power and/or cost is just otiose ... so you go for the biggest and the best or the one thats a bit more of a handfull if that's what floats ya boat!! .... If you want to get sensible then buy Suzis lovely GS500 (or SV650 )!! http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photo...ki-GS500Fa.jpg ... ideal
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Old 09-05-07, 01:05 PM   #18
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its not just the ponies which you have to take into consideration. take the r6 for example. has great horsepower, but lacks torque so exiting corners isnt as good. i remember seeing in performance bikes their lap times on their test track, a 99 sv650 beat the 2006/7 r6 round their track, and their explaination??? lacks torque to exit the corners, other than that greeat bike.
hence why i probably would go for the gixxer 750. get a decent amount of bhp, and also the torque needed.
but thats just me. i would rather have a bike which could corner well and go like stink, than a bike which goes like stink, but then get outpowered by a 8 year old sv650!!
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Old 09-05-07, 01:17 PM   #19
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its not just the ponies which you have to take into consideration. take the r6 for example. has great horsepower, but lacks torque so exiting corners isnt as good. i remember seeing in performance bikes their lap times on their test track, a 99 sv650 beat the 2006/7 r6 round their track, and their explaination??? lacks torque to exit the corners, other than that greeat bike.
hence why i probably would go for the gixxer 750. get a decent amount of bhp, and also the torque needed.
but thats just me. i would rather have a bike which could corner well and go like stink, than a bike which goes like stink, but then get outpowered by a 8 year old sv650!!
I'll take that challenge! (well as long as it's not Blue_SV650S on the SV ) It's not the bike - it's the rider + in that particular test, I seem to remember each was tested on a different day - one being damper than the other.

People seem to think that the R6 is sluggish (probably down to the journos) which is the same opinion that get regurgitated everytime, yet few people have actually ridden one.
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Old 09-05-07, 01:30 PM   #20
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Out of the original 2 choices I'd go for the Yam.
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