How dare the BBC........

Originally Posted by neio79

I will probably be shot down in flames for this, however I feel a lot of the blame for this has to lie with the parents. I am NOT saying that they deserved it etc. However what the f**k were they doing leaving 3 young kids in a locked room when they f**ked off for a meal??

By the looks of it although the restaurant is 50yds as the crow flies, you still have to leave the compound and cross a road!!

I have a 7yr old and there is no way ever I would consider leaving her on her own a sleep and swaned of for a meal no mater if it was across the road at my neighbours (10meters).

I do think that the media try to pick on someone though, maybe they should concentrate on the parents for doing something so stupid? Even if she had not been taken, what if there had been a fire?? 3 kids dead cos their stupid parents locked them in a room.

Now it is a crying shame I hope they catch the pervert who done it and torture him/her to death, no ifs no buts. Pedos deserve to die in the most horrendous way ever, and if anyone on here tries to defend them or say, no lets think of them and why they done it then they deserve to have the sh8t kicked out of them as well!!! If something ever happened to my little girl like that and the offender was caught, I really would drag their painfull death out for as long as possible making sure the last thing they saw and heard before I plucked out their eyes and perforated their eardrums was my little girls image and voice.

Rant over

My thoughts exactly, couldn't agree more.

[Viney]

Neio, i agree my friend whole hartedly. I also think after see ing the interviews with the parents that they may be a bit more behond this than 1st thought.

All said, i hope shes found alive and well and it makes the parents think!!

Theres just something not quite right with this.

I agree with Neio79 but perhaps now is not the time to have a crack at the parents or the police.

Originally Posted by Bear

To me, it seems that most of the media are ****ed of with the police because they aren't getting the same access to information that they get from our police.

I think the media are just trying to bully the portugese police into giving out more information, so by calling them incompetant they're hoping the police will turn around & say " no we're not, weve been doing this ... & got this ... evidence etc" just like kids in a playground!

critism of this sort is never be helpfull in finding this poor little girl, so i think there should be more positive vibes floating around

Originally Posted by gazman

I think the media are just trying to bully the portugese police into giving out more information, so by calling them incompetant they're hoping the police will turn around & say " no we're not, weve been doing this ... & got this ... evidence etc" just like kids in a playground!

critism of this sort is never be helpfull in finding this poor little girl, so i think there should be more positive vibes floating around

I agree, but you used to be able to count on the BBC to be fairly sensitive in their reporting. They now seem to be the most 'sensational' of the media at the moment. They are also so patronising. Pretty funny really when most of their journalists are cretins (imo)
Anyway, thoughts with Madeleine and family.

I wonder what the general feeling would be if the child was in the care of a childminder as opposed to the parents, and that said childminder popped out and left the children for whatever reason?

Said childminder would be vilified, persecuted and banged up. People are treading softly softly on this issue in the media because it was Mummy and Daddy that left three toddlers on their own. Parenting is constant responsibility, a duty that can't be suspended because they fancied a meal. Take the kids with you, arrange babysitting, or don't have them in the first place.

I reckon the parents were reckless in their act - regardless of its innocence. A stupid thing to do, I only hope that the child is found so they don't live the rest of their lives in wretched guilt.

Originally Posted by helen

I wonder what the general feeling would be if the child was in the care of a childminder as opposed to the parents, and that said childminder popped out and left the children for whatever reason?

Said childminder would be vilified, persecuted and banged up. People are treading softly softly on this issue in the media because it was Mummy and Daddy that left three toddlers on their own. Parenting is constant responsibility, a duty that can't be suspended because they fancied a meal. Take the kids with you, arrange babysitting, or don't have them in the first place.

I reckon the parents were reckless in their act - regardless of its innocence. A stupid thing to do, I only hope that the child is found so they don't live the rest of their lives in wretched guilt.

Although I do agree with you here, it is a sad world if the moment you leave your child unattended for more than an hour she gets kidnapped

Originally Posted by Bear

To me, it seems that most of the media are ****ed of with the police because they aren't getting the same access to information that they get from our police.

Precisely.

Originally Posted by neio79

I will probably be shot down in flames for this, however I feel a lot of the blame for this has to lie with the parents. I am NOT saying that they deserved it etc. However what the f**k were they doing leaving 3 young kids in a locked room when they f**ked off for a meal??

*snip*

Rant over

My feelings exactly.

Originally Posted by The Basket

It is bad form to slag off another man's country. Especially a no nothing journalist.

It has an open border with Spain and doesn't have CCTV big brother camera all over the place.

Again, bingo.

Originally Posted by gazman

I think the media are just trying to bully the portugese police into giving out more information, so by calling them incompetant they're hoping the police will turn around & say " no we're not, weve been doing this ... & got this ... evidence etc" just like kids in a playground!

critism of this sort is never be helpfull in finding this poor little girl, so i think there should be more positive vibes floating around

Couldn't agree more.

Originally Posted by helen

I wonder what the general feeling would be if the child was in the care of a childminder as opposed to the parents, and that said childminder popped out and left the children for whatever reason?

Said childminder would be vilified, persecuted and banged up. People are treading softly softly on this issue in the media because it was Mummy and Daddy that left three toddlers on their own. Parenting is constant responsibility, a duty that can't be suspended because they fancied a meal. Take the kids with you, arrange babysitting, or don't have them in the first place.

I reckon the parents were reckless in their act - regardless of its innocence. A stupid thing to do, I only hope that the child is found so they don't live the rest of their lives in wretched guilt.

Again, my thoughts exactly.

Originally Posted by Warthog

Although I do agree with you here, it is a sad world if the moment you leave your child unattended for more than an hour she gets kidnapped

And this is the unfortunate truth.

Now for my take on the subject: the portuguese police is far from perfect, everyday I have something or other to rant against them so I won't stand in a soapbox and shout abuse trying to defend them. But the truth is they are working on it, only disclosing enough info to keep the people informed. Those incompetence allegations are WAY out of order, and if I had my way someone would be sued for them. See, some people in Portugal would rather be working instead of pampering idiotic journalists who are craving for the next headline and potentially ruin the whole investigation by printing more info than they should. Sorry about that then.

As for the parents... if what they're saying is in fact the truth, then my sympathy goes to them. They made a major braindead mistake and are now paying for it with their hearts and lives. They won't have anyone else to blame but for themselves, and that is probably the worse punishment someone could ever be given.

As for the kidnapper... I have a daughter around that poor childs age, and since this is still a U-Rated forum I won't pass further comment than those already aired.

[Stingo]

Whilst it most certainly is an unusual situation, how many people every day, leave their child/children in the car when they go to pay for the petrol just as a matter of course. I'm not trying to say the parents are blameless in this case, but monitoring kids is, as many of us know, a complex issue.

IMHO somebody knew that little girl was in that room...

Originally Posted by helen

I wonder what the general feeling would be if the child was in the care of a childminder as opposed to the parents, and that said childminder popped out and left the children for whatever reason?

Said childminder would be vilified, persecuted and banged up. People are treading softly softly on this issue in the media because it was Mummy and Daddy that left three toddlers on their own. Parenting is constant responsibility, a duty that can't be suspended because they fancied a meal. Take the kids with you, arrange babysitting, or don't have them in the first place.

I reckon the parents were reckless in their act - regardless of its innocence. A stupid thing to do, I only hope that the child is found so they don't live the rest of their lives in wretched guilt.

yep you are right if it had been a childminder done that then there would be lots of finger pointing.

Has anyone in the media actually had the balls to say this on air, as it is what alot of us on here think and i bet represents the feelings across the country.

Also i think that the police are doing everything they can given on what they know, its like the media expect them to pluck the person or people responsible out of the air!

IMO the media need to think about the bigger picture i.e if the portugese police do have a strong lead then by telling the media it gives those responsible time to know the police are onto them and get away again.

Its like playing spy games. Miss information to the media should be part of the order of the day if they are close.