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Old 29-07-07, 11:03 PM   #11
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Yeah but the sv has nice high pegs even when hangin off my fazer it still grounds out
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Old 29-07-07, 11:06 PM   #12
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Yeah but the sv has nice high pegs even when hangin off my fazer it still grounds out
You're doing it wrong.
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Old 29-07-07, 11:13 PM   #13
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You're doing it wrong.
Explain please?
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Old 29-07-07, 11:36 PM   #14
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Explain please?

Hanging off properly enables you to keep the bike more upright for the same given corner speed. That way you have more of a contact patch between rubber and tarmac and it jkeeps the solid bits on the bike from grinding and lifting the wheels off the deck. If you're still getting the pegs down then you aren't doing it properly.

It's almost impossible to work on it without seeing what you're doing wrong, correcting it at a standstill and then seeing you go out and try again. It's a whole body position thing, not just shifting your ar5e or moving your upper body over a bit. When people say they hang off like a gibbon they really mean it, until they see themselves on video. That's when they realise they are shifting their ar5e about 4 or 5 inches across the seat and their upper body is still in line with the centre of the bike...all wrong. It's not just a body thing, there's the bracing and position of feet and knees and weighting the outer peg - all of it helps to stabilise the bike in corners and allows you to do it safer and faster.

Hanging off feels alien to most road riders, they feel the bike should be between their legs, not over to one side. Once you've got your head round that, doing it properly comes far easier.

To get an idea watch race videos, then set up a camera on a good corner and record yourself hanging off at your most extreme. Sit back at home doing a comparison and laugh at how little you actually do hang off....then go try again.
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Old 30-07-07, 03:19 PM   #15
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Yeah know what your sayin mate but you obviously havent riden a fazer lol sports bike its not and the clearance is always going to be an issue when you up the pace no matter how far you lean off.
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Old 30-07-07, 03:29 PM   #16
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Yeah know what your sayin mate but you obviously havent riden a fazer lol sports bike its not and the clearance is always going to be an issue when you up the pace no matter how far you lean off.
I was until very recently a mechanic at a Yamaha dealer, I've ridden a fair few Fazers (old and new models, 600s and 1000s) and they can be hustled round extremely quickly and never get their pegs down in the process. One of the guys at the dealership has an FZ1 trackbike and his pegs have never been down, he rides in the middle of the fast group and regularly does the Nurburgring on it. Another mate has a Y regd Fazer 1000 and his fast group riding pace never has them down either. If you're scraping the pegs then you are a whisker away from scraping your ****/head/shoulder.

I don't think I've had the pegs scraping on any bike designed after 1990 (cruisers and Bandits excepted), and I ain't slow.

My view is still that you're doing it wrong and you should get yourself to a trackday and ask for some expert instruction.
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Old 31-07-07, 11:22 AM   #17
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Yeah know what your sayin mate but you obviously havent riden a fazer lol sports bike its not and the clearance is always going to be an issue when you up the pace no matter how far you lean off.
Those 1st gen Fazers have quite soft suspension? Are you on std. settings? Maybe a bit more preload/ compression back and front should help.
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Old 31-07-07, 11:41 AM   #18
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yeah ive upped the preload, thing is with standard pegs the ground clearance is always going to be an issue even with correct body positioning.
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