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Old 27-07-10, 07:13 PM   #231
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The officer is being dealt with by means of gross misconduct and will be subject of an internal hearing.
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Old 27-07-10, 07:26 PM   #232
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Does the Met have to wait till after the CPS has finished with the case before doing an internal dcip?I assume that why they have started this after a year.
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Old 27-07-10, 07:28 PM   #233
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I thought the CPS had done their bit.
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Old 27-07-10, 08:06 PM   #234
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if this had been me outside a pub and i had pushed a bloke who had his hands in his pockets and then died i would still be at HM pleasure and would be for some time yet. so why does a plonker like him get away with it. in fact all he is getting is a slap on the wrists. maybe because he is a police officer. its all wrong. he should be made an example of not fukrn let away with it. and why has it all been held behind closed doors. its a public matter as far as i'm concerned. furkin stinks like rotten fish this one.
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Old 27-07-10, 09:39 PM   #235
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I thought the CPS had done their bit.
Thats what I mean.Is that the reason it has taken the Met a year to even begin a dcip against this officer.Where I work they would have done it from the off,maybe taking a year to complete it,but that would be due to incompetance.
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Old 28-07-10, 02:18 AM   #236
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Thats what I mean.Is that the reason it has taken the Met a year to even begin a dcip against this officer.Where I work they would have done it from the off,maybe taking a year to complete it,but that would be due to incompetance.
I know up here that the Force has to wait until any criminal proceedings are done before they can bring any disciplinary action.
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Old 28-07-10, 09:03 AM   #237
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Theres more evidence to this than Youtube and the like.

Trial by Youtube.
Actually the police force is subject to trial by youtube.

The individual officers guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The fragile trust of the public needs no such reassurance.
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Old 28-07-10, 01:24 PM   #238
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if it had been Mr Tomlinson that had pushed the PO things would have been very very different. for starters he would have been set upon by the other PO's standing there then taken into custody and given spit rolls for his supper then taken to the dock on the next available day where he would have been remanded in coustody till his trial date come up by which time the PO would have died. then at which point Mr Tomlinson would have been sentenced to manslaughter and would now be serving a very long stretch (as he had killed a PO in the line of duty). but if a PO kills a member of the public 'in the line of duty' what happens.. well from what we have read so far, NOWT.

so what's the difference? maybe a uniform perhaps. it makes me sick to the back teeth.
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if it had been Mr Tomlinson that had pushed the PO things would have been very very different. for starters he would have been set upon by the other PO's standing there then taken into custody and given spit rolls for his supper then taken to the dock on the next available day where he would have been remanded in coustody till his trial date come up by which time the PO would have died. then at which point Mr Tomlinson would have been sentenced to manslaughter and would now be serving a very long stretch (as he had killed a PO in the line of duty). but if a PO kills a member of the public 'in the line of duty' what happens.. well from what we have read so far, NOWT.

so what's the difference? maybe a uniform perhaps. it makes me sick to the back teeth.

I'm sorry but wind your bloody neck in Bibio!

You seem to be arguing with yourself on this one! I have seen similar cases where someone pushed someone, who then died from something and all they were booked with was an assault, not even assault to injury, just plain old simple, assault. And that was a member of the public, not a Police officer. I'm not exactly sure what the definition of manslaughter is because it doesn't exist up here but I am sure that with the media attention, had there been evidence for manslaughter they would have charged him with it.

I am shocked, however, that he wasn't done with a common assault on the guy at the least.

Just really annoys me that we get idiots like him wearing the uniform and then we all get tarred with the same brush.
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Bibio is probably right i can see it going that way if it was the other way round aswell.
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