Racism in the UK in 2011

I dont know which is more appropriate, blinkered or cacooned. As mentioned a multiple occasions in this thread, I dont think a persons views is as much defined by a malfunctioning cerabelum as it is thier surroundings. Case and point is Speedy's post.

Speedplay, I see where you're coming from in your post. After all, you've lived in Luton. I've driven through it a few times, and usually wanna drive out as fast as possible.

Originally Posted by speedplay

I wonder what would happen if we tried to build churches and convert muslim countries to christianity....


Oh yes, They would cut our heads off..

I don't agree with this though. Sweeping and inaccurate. You will find many muslim countries (particularly the middle east and north africa) have very many christians residing happily within, and there are many historical churches in the region.

Christianity is not a white religion and didn't start here. Many christians ended up staying in or near the region their religion originated from.

I think it's real paranoia and islamophobia if people think that there is an underground muslim agenda to take over this country and convert everyone in it to islam. Would never happen or come close to happening.

Actually the only people who come knocking on my door are the Jehovahs.

[Biker Biggles]

He said jehovah
Stone him.

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

He said jehovah
Stone him.

*In a high pitched squeaky voice*

Originally Posted by speedplay

I wonder what would happen if we tried to build churches and convert muslim countries to christianity....


Oh yes, They would cut our heads off..

Originally Posted by thulfi

I don't agree with this though..

Obviously didnt teach about the crusades in your school then...

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by speedplay

Obviously didnt teach about the crusades in your school then...

I don't understand what Christianities (Roman catholic europes) attempt to recapture and control the 'holy land' has anything to do with my post, or your post about people getting beheaded if they build churches in countries where the majority of people are muslims in this day and age.

Crusades were a time of outright wars. Your post implies you fear muslims want to convert this country, and mosques are allowed to be built in this country because people here are so tolerant whereas try and build a church in a muslim country and you get beheaded!

You need to open your eyes, or perhaps travel a little.

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by thulfi

I don't agree with this though. Sweeping and inaccurate. You will find many muslim countries (particularly the middle east and north africa) have very many christians residing happily within, and there are many historical churches in the region.

hmm a difficult thing to debate about. See I can go to Cyprus, and rather too many Churches, especially in the Turkish Northern 'unrecognised' side, have been taken over, ransacked and turned into Mosques, all exterior emblems defaced. In fact a large monastry, in Famagusta, has been nicely turned into a museum as an after thought, to keep the Greeks happy


Yes I am aware, that I am talking about a different issue, but why the lack of respect for religious churches. I haven't really ever seen a mosque being so disrespectfully changed to a Christian place of worship.

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

I haven't really ever seen a mosque being so disrespectfully changed to a Christian place of worship.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/index.p...rticleID=21756

Originally Posted by from article

According to the report, Taşköprü Mosque, often referred to as the Thursday Marketplace Mosque, and Çukur Mosque in Plovdiv, Bulgaria, were converted into restaurants where alcoholic drinks are served, while a mosque in Constanta, Romania, was transformed into a nightclub.

also,the dome of the rock, the most important mosque in Jerusalem

Originally Posted by wiki

During the Crusades the Dome of the Rock was given to the Augustinians, who turned it into a church while the Al-Aqsa Mosque became a royal stable. The Knights Templar, who believed the Dome of the Rock was the site of the Temple of Solomon, later set up their headquarters in the Al-Aqsa Mosque adjacent to the Dome for much of the 12th century. The "Templum Domini," as they called it, was featured on the official seals of the Order's Grand Masters (such as Evrard de Barres and Regnaud de Vichier), and it became the architectural model for Templar churches across Europe.

Originally Posted by thulfi

Your post implies you fear muslims want to convert this country, and mosques are allowed to be built in this country because people here are so tolerant whereas try and build a church in a muslim country and you get beheaded!

Nothing implied in my post at all.