Independence referendum..

[Bibio]

how do you come up with 'the standard of living will fall' that's just media bullshizz.

i'm going to stop now.

Originally Posted by The Basket

To say that Scotland should be independent is purely a nationalist policy sounds to me.

It isnt based on economic or military or social or transport...nobody has the first idea what will happen as Scotland has never been independent before in the last 300 years. So it is a total case of hope for the best.

The idea that anyone can vote independent and for the standard of living to fall means you are voting to be poorer? How does that fly?

You can't eat a flag.

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Originally Posted by Bibio

how do you come up with 'the standard of living will fall' that's just media bullshizz.

i'm going to stop now.

How do you come up with the standard of living will rise?

Thats just media Bullshizz.

Nice of you to say that due to independence you have lost your job.

that would be comfort to those who do.

Unfortunately nobody can guarantee that you will keep your job,the old job for life scenario went out the window a long time ago Many moons ago I worked in Glasgow then Bathgate in the vehicle industry but when things got iffy I moved down south thinking it would be more secure-------wrong
A fact of today's modern life is you have to go where the work is,hoping to stay put and waiting for it to come to you isn't the answer
Funding for public services such as Police and Fire Service are part of your local rates so these can be taken out of the equation. Like some others I would like to know how much revenue is generated for the national coffers by Scotland
I would want to know all the facts before national pride would influence a descision and this will probably be in the minds of most voters.Till that day I reserve my perch on the fence

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Unfortunately nobody can guarantee that you will keep your job,the old job for life scenario went out the window a long time ago Many moons ago I worked in Glasgow then Bathgate in the vehicle industry but when things got iffy I moved down south thinking it would be more secure-------wrong
A fact of today's modern life is you have to go where the work is,hoping to stay put and waiting for it to come to you isn't the answer
Funding for public services such as Police and Fire Service are part of your local rates so these can be taken out of the equation. Like some others I would like to know how much revenue is generated for the national coffers by Scotland
I would want to know all the facts before national pride would influence a descision and this will probably be in the minds of most voters.Till that day I reserve my perch on the fence

Sounds like a plan to me. Good call.

[husky03]

timing is great eh?-just as the oil is about to run dry in the north sea, you'll get the braveheart mob shouting for independance-yeh right-by all means be responsible for your own affairs but as local councils have shown already they can't run a single town correctly never mind a country.

[punyXpress]

Just wish you'd done this 15 years ago.
. . and kept the Member for Dunfermline East and ( separately ) Kirkcaldy your side of 'adrian's wall.

what are the tangible benefits??
Other than the nationalistic shout of freedom, what will it change, never mind improve??
I would like to see an educated and informed debate, but frankly i dont think that will happen. It will be media and spin and flag waving rhetoric, style over substance.
North sea oil.. running out fast, who says we could claim it as our anyway, the world is becoming smaller, why would we want to become more insular rather than more connected.Britain plays an over inflated role in the world as it is due to historic empires and inflated egos, look at other countries our size and how much they interfere / contribute to wolrd events. Would we be big enough to become small, not to be "important" but to concentrate on self interests and improvement, i dont believe so.
Have a look at other like sized countries and their taxes, income, standard of living, world status, etc.
We are a small, moderately industrialized, poor service tourist economy, ISLAND. which in itself presents many issues. I understand the blood pumping, freedom, hard done to, unlistened to attitude but i cannot see a deceleration of independence changing that much.

[TamSV]

Here's some excerpts from the McCrone Report commissioned by the Heath Government in the 1970's and then stamped "Top Secret" and buried for 30 years. It remained secret under the Callaghan, Thatcher, Major and Blair Governments until released under a Freedom of Information request.

"..large revenues and balance of payments gains would indeed accrue to a Scottish Government in the event of independence...The country would tend to be in chronic surplus to a quite embarrassing degree and its currency would become the hardest in Europe...just as deposed monarchs and African leaders have used the Swiss franc as a haven of security, so now would the Scottish pound be seen as a good hedge...the Scottish banks could expect to find themselves inundated with a speculative inflow of foreign funds"

Things don't change..

"Our biggest problem is lowering the expectations of the Scottish people" Martin O'Neill MP (Labour) 1984

"We have got to engender fear of the SNP" Douglas Alexander MP (Labour) in a leaked memo, 1999

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

I'd also vote no.

Since when did someone from Germany have a say?