Two best upgrades I've made.

[yorkie_chris]

The whole "other road users don't care about bikers etc." arguement is b0llocks, if you're on a bike and you are seen to be polite and sensible then it doesn't hurt anyone and just maybe people will take a good look before pulling out and such.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by ejohnh

I wondered when it was going start getting personal.

Originally Posted by sv_rider1990

so why should i care about other road users

you found that attitude acceptable?

I hate Xenon lights on approaching vehicles cos' they all seem to reduce my visibility markedly - and I doubt they are all badly adjusted

I don't do much night riding on me Scooter (holding a candle would give more viz!), but when in a car I just put my main beams on....why? countermeasures and gives me a chance to still see WTF is going on.

Xenon's are the most selfish invention on the road since the urban 4x4.

Maybe I should order a Xenon for the SV? (if not OE?- I never checked!)

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

And if I am riding in front of you being dazzled by your badly adjusted lights?

Two wrongs dont make a right (although 3 lefts do)

Get it fixed and stop being a selfish pratt.

Either that or get off the road before you cause an accident.

You are also breaking the law - see here about the requirements to get through an MOT with regards to headlight aim

http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_160.htm

Once again, stop being stroppy, grow up and get it fixed

Thats where you and me obviously have different views as far as im concerned I (we should i say, we motorcyclists are ment to be a community and look out for eachother now arent we" more vulnerable on the road when on the road so I look after me.... number 1 so if you dont like my attitude thats fine it really does not bother me one bit.

I did not say i go round riding everywhere on full beam.... my personal view is there brighter so that i know people know im there! Yet again im looking after me!! A cage driver and any other cage driver doesnt care about a biker in my personal experiance there of the opinion round my area " ive got to wait in a que so why shouldnt you" when filtering and " my cars going to be faster than your bike" when at traffic lights and are always up for racing you round my area. So i personally want to live a long life and i dont want to be another motorcycle fatality statistic so any upgrade i can make that will improve the chances i will get seen then i will take myself into account before any road user first.

If thats a selfish attitude then im sorry that you dont like it but as modern society goes it is beggining to get a very selfish and know one cares about anyone else country so as a daily commuter i want to be as safe as i can on two wheels.

[fizzwheel]

sv_rider1990 - just a quick question, the xenons you upgraded to are they the same wattage as the standard bulb ? If so I believe that they would still be classed as legal. I did this with my car ages ago made one hell of a difference.

Oh and the curvey SVS headlights are IMHO sh*t, I really notice it now as the GSXR has a project dipped beam and it really does highlight how bad the lights are on the SVS IMHO.

[glade]

Originally Posted by ASM-Forever

This is exactly why i hate xenon bulbs, not just on cars but on bikes as well! Ok if they're badly adjusted they are worse, but why should i be half blinded/struggle to see where i'm going, because some other selfish **** wants brighter headlights. I had a curvy and was fine with the standard headlights. Before someone asks i did ride lots of unlit country roads.

I would ban them in a heartbeart!

First of all are these actually proper zenon headlights?? People seem to get filament bulbs, with a different gas and tinted glass mixed up with proper zenon kits with discharge bulbs, ballast etc

I have zenons on the Clio and no-one has ever flashed me. EDIT: Factory fit, not aftermarket.

The pattern of the lights is much sharper than filament bulbs, and i always find when someone with zenons is approaching (from the front or behind) that you just see a blue tinge rather than the light, because the beam of light isn't actually shining into your eyes.

The times i get blinded is when someone's got their halfords 100w ice blue bulbs, in the standard headlamp reflector, searing my retinas.

IMO proper zenon projectors are less of a problem than upgraded filament/standard reflector headlamps.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

sv_rider1990 - just a quick question, the xenons you upgraded to are they the same wattage as the standard bulb ? If so I believe that they would still be classed as legal. I did this with my car ages ago made one hell of a difference.

Oh and the curvey SVS headlights are IMHO sh*t, I really notice it now as the GSXR has a project dipped beam and it really does highlight how bad the lights are on the SVS IMHO.

Yeep they are fully legal and will pass the MOT i checked before i got them they have a better performance on the riding beam but not really much difference on the full beam thats why i wanted them becuase the OEM bulbs are rubbish. The unit is not well designed i think on the Curvy so i am making the best of a bad job with regards to the unit and an upgrade in bulbs.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by sv_rider1990

Yeep they are fully legal and will pass the MOT i checked before i got them they have a better performance on the riding beam but not really much difference on the full beam thats why i wanted them becuase the OEM bulbs are rubbish. The unit is not well designed i think on the Curvy so i am making the best of a bad job with regards to the unit and an upgrade in bulbs.

Dont see what the problem is then, legal upgrade and I'm guesing you have them correctly adjusted ?

If so I think a few of you have been a bit harsh, give the guy a break.

I get flashed now and again on my GSXR, because peeps think its on main beam. The light is completely standard and as it left the factory, its adjusted properly. Its just that the light is fantastic thats all.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Dont see what the problem is then, legal upgrade and I'm guesing you have them correctly adjusted ?

If so I think a few of you have been a bit harsh, give the guy a break.

I get flashed now and again on my GSXR, because peeps think its on main beam. The light is completely standard and as it left the factory, its adjusted properly. Its just that the light is fantastic thats all.

Yeeeh ive had them all correctly adjusted and there all fully legal.

My dads 2005 VFR lights are bright he gets flashed all the time and there standard bulbs. But i just want my personal safety to come first i dont see the problem.

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

you found that attitude acceptable?

Of course I didn't. But attack/criticise the message not the poster. What do I read out of you calling somebody a pratt on here? What does that add to the sum knowledge?

Yes, I think that a lot of what sv-rider says is blx. But that is just my opinion.