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Old 12-04-08, 04:56 PM   #21
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i think ss600s do 60 - 70 in first, my sv does 40.
ss1000's do 100 odd in first...

all from what people have told me that have both bikes
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Old 12-04-08, 05:11 PM   #22
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At what speed does a ss600 redline in 1st gear, s.
well my 2007 ZX6R redlines at 86 in first, just over a ton in second, third is 120ish i think, and 4th , well ran out of clear road to find out yet .
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Old 12-04-08, 06:36 PM   #23
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The SS600 can hit a higher speed in a given gear because it rev's higher. If you let the SV rev to 16k it would also do silly speeds in each gear.

I actually think the gearing between my 636 and the SV were very similar - i.e. at a set rpm in a set gear you were doing the same speed. I think maybe the gearing was perhaps slightly longer on the SV.

The result being that the SS600 was revving slightly higher at a set speed and gear but it was very close.

I am thinking of 6th gear though as that is the only one where I took note. It maybe that the lower gear ratios are a different story but my perception was that at 70mph in 6th the 6R was revving a tad higher.
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Old 12-04-08, 06:50 PM   #24
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Oooh one of these threads again so soon! Normally it's only every couple of months, seems to be every week now

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12th july...
Must be on the edge of your seat now, it's getting close!
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Old 12-04-08, 07:32 PM   #25
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DO NOT listen to those who say "oh but they have no midrange at all and you have to be at 11'000rpm before they even start going". It's all a load of pap.
You see what you say is almost true. They do have similar power curves till the SV runs out of poof BUT. What you really want to look at is the drive force diagrams of each bike. Id be willing to put ?10 on the sv having better low down drive in any given gear. So this WILL make the SV feel like it has more grunt.

Id work them out but I cant be bothered



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Get an SV Thou, scarily fast at first. Only managed to get out twice so far on mine (went from a pointy 650) and can't wait for some decent weather now
I agree upto a point. If you want to upgrade go for a SV thou/Falco these have similar peak BHP to a SS600 but they have a lot more drive and torque. Makes them much better all rounders. And I can vouch (as can any falco forums) that a SS bike dont out handle it either

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well my 2007 ZX6R redlines at 86 in first, just over a ton in second, third is 120ish i think, and 4th , well ran out of clear road to find out yet .
Indicated... These jap speedo's are terribly inaccurate!

http://www.gearingcommander.com/

Last edited by ThEGr33k; 27-05-09 at 10:06 PM.
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Old 12-04-08, 10:04 PM   #26
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Indicated... These jap speedo's are terribly inaccurate!

http://www.gearingcommander.com/
true, yes but it still kicks the ass of most things in first, even indicated!! (mine indicated 86, SV indicated 50ish!!) and i would imagine that is an indicated higher reading than yours??

and it will go on to do a TRUE GPS tested 162MPH!!

So, its still a bit quick
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Old 12-04-08, 10:07 PM   #27
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Anyone want to swap an up to date SS 600 (inc 636s, 675s and 749s) for an old outdated slow V-twin 650? Only 3 careful owners.....?
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Old 12-04-08, 10:19 PM   #28
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true, yes but it still kicks the ass of most things in first, even indicated!! (mine indicated 86, SV indicated 50ish!!) and i would imagine that is an indicated higher reading than yours??

and it will go on to do a TRUE GPS tested 162MPH!!

So, its still a bit quick
Well yes... but thats because my speedo is pretty much bang on right. Each gear shows what its supposed to on the speedo (works out through gear ratio's.)

My Falco's gearing and an SS600 gearing is very similar speed in each gear (except for my 5th and 6th which are much taller than a 600's... dont ask me why but its geared for over 180MPH... Good for cruising mind 70 at 4K rpm ) so our actual speeds would be similar...

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Anyone want to swap an up to date SS 600 (inc 636s, 675s and 749s) for an old outdated slow V-twin 650? Only 3 careful owners.....?

1000 twin Tim!
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Old 13-04-08, 09:59 PM   #29
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i'm hankering after a gixer 750 now but i stil would like to keep the 1000 v twin because i really am enjoying its lazy ploddy torque, theres something still about that v twin noise that i cant quite get out of my head.
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Old 13-04-08, 10:21 PM   #30
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i'm hankering after a gixer 750 now but i stil would like to keep the 1000 v twin because i really am enjoying its lazy ploddy torque, theres something still about that v twin noise that i cant quite get out of my head.
Kwak, what does the thou sound like with aftermarket cans compared to a 650 with an aftermarket can? Is it even better?
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