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Old 12-06-08, 04:11 PM   #21
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Thing is, the placebo affect actually can have a beneficial effect in many cases, psychology as medicince can't be discounted.
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Old 12-06-08, 04:18 PM   #22
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Homeopathy? Nah,I'm an old fashioned kinda guy that still prefers girls.
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Old 12-06-08, 04:28 PM   #23
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Thing is, the placebo affect actually can have a beneficial effect in many cases, psychology as medicince can't be discounted.
Oh, definatly; a positive frame of mind is bloody helpfull. But peddling ideas like "memory of water" is not helpful. Its just incorrect.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:58 PM   #24
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The tooth fairy told me that Santa said it cured Rudolphs red nose.
However the Wicked Witch of the West said is all bullocks.

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Old 12-06-08, 08:10 PM   #25
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Its always nice when you can formulate your ideas on a topic succinctly, concisely and in a direct and to the point manner.

Homeopathy = B0LL0CKS.
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Old 13-06-08, 11:18 AM   #26
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not quite, thats the proven theory behind inoculations, by providing the patient's body with a weakened form of whatever you want to inoculate against, it allows the body to develop the antibodies required to fend off the attack

the concentration of homoeopathic remedies are trillions of trillions of times more dilute than than the jab you get to protect against the flu for example, so dilute it would be like adding a drop of whatever the active ingredient is to all the worlds oceans (it's actually more dilute than that but it serves the purpose).

now imagine you let that one drop of whatever you put in the ocean disperse evenly around the globe, and once it has you take a thimble of water from anywhere on earth. what are the chances that that tiny bit of water in the thimble contains one molecule from the original drop? the answer is effectively zero, and that's how likely the homoeopathic solution is to contain any of the original substance you added before you started diluting it

I know thats the theroy of innoculations ( antibody antigen response,mediated cell response and the immunological respose cascade etc)

all i was saying is that is the real science (as in proven) behind the Psydo science

i wasn't sure about the dilution ratios but once you get to the end saturation point there's buggerall there anyway it make little differenece diluting defacto water with water again

what worries me is they are running accredited (HOW???) courses in this with people who may not understand that they have to dilute that much and may leave some active anti-gen in the solution and cause major issues

As a question doesn't the mantra say the more you dilute the more effective the homopathetic response?

and my considered response in regards to all the evidence presented to date (in peer reviewed medical journals as opposed to hear say review) its all B*ll*cks
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