update on my little cousin

Originally Posted by hovis

17 or 18 i belive........ so you think this is ok?

It takes 2 to tango, as it was a "consenting relationship" you can't blame him solely.

[timwilky]

As I said in the original thread about my lads girlfriend, she with no preggy bump produced an unexpected bundle an hour after waters broke. Us blokes can comment in blissful ignorance about the process. However, the way nature intended is obviously best even if she is "small".


As for the future. There will be a child. Has she accepted that she is to be a mum. That it is a full time occupation, that she still needs to go to school, balance it with being a mum etc.

Whilst there is some help out there, it is never enough.

I just hope all her friends see what she is going through and say "Not for me" rather than the "That looks like fun, I think I will have a baby too"

Originally Posted by Baph

Lets face it, a 16 year old (of either gender) being intimate with a 15 year old (again, of either gender) is legally pedophillia.

I don't think many people in their right mind would go down that road over such a close age "gap" though.

I *think* actually it's not legally paedophilia - to be a paedophile you are intentionally looking for the features, behaviour, etc of a child as opposed to an adult, so I think it is set to 12 years old or below (many teenagers below 16 can look & behave like adults). Stand to be corrected though.

It's besides the point though, as regardless the law says that people below 16 cannot consent, so saying the 13 year old consented doesn't hold water in court.

Originally Posted by muffles

I *think* actually it's not legally paedophilia - to be a paedophile you are intentionally looking for the features, behaviour, etc of a child as opposed to an adult, so I think it is set to 12 years old or below (many teenagers below 16 can look & behave like adults). Stand to be corrected though.

It's besides the point though, as regardless the law says that people below 16 cannot consent, so saying the 13 year old consented doesn't hold water in court.

The legal definition of a pedophile is "An adult who indulges in sexual acts with a minor child and attains sexual gratification." Speaking legally, in sexual terms, an "adult" is someone aged over the age of consent - as you said, 16. Also a "child" or "minor" is someone below the age of consent.

Regardless of if the age difference is two days, it's still legally pedophillia.

But you're right on the consent issue - which is probably why the giant scrotum has sought councelling, to mitigate any comeback because of the consent issue.

As others have said, with much support, this young girl can make it. It is unfortunate that this has happened so early on in her life, but what's done is done and soon there'll be a new baby to give much love to.

It's amazing how strong the maternal instinct can be. When she sees her baby for the first time, it may indeed be the making of her.

I wish her all the best.

Originally Posted by Baph

The legal definition of a pedophile is "An adult who indulges in sexual acts with a minor child and attains sexual gratification." Speaking legally, in sexual terms, an "adult" is someone aged over the age of consent - as you said, 16. Also a "child" or "minor" is someone below the age of consent.

Regardless of if the age difference is two days, it's still legally pedophillia.

But you're right on the consent issue - which is probably why the giant scrotum has sought councelling, to mitigate any comeback because of the consent issue.

It may well have been a different country's laws or something in that case - it was basically to prevent the issue that this guy would be labelled a paedophile rather than a 'standard' (if there is such a thing) sex offender. Whilst what he did was wrong, given he knew her age, he wasn't getting aroused by the fact she was a child (as far as I know anyway!).

Re: the counselling - you mean so he can say he was traumatised by it?

Actually I think this might give a few clues: http://www.crimeinfo.org.uk/servlet/...ory=factsheets

Bit of a nasty thing to read but it says attraction to adolescents 13 and above is something different to paedophilia.

I'm going to stop going into this now though, not a very nice topic!

Sexual attraction to adolescents is ephebophilia, though as previously mentioned, the law doesn't seem to take this into account as it views anyone below 16 as a child.

[Biker Biggles]

Irrespective of all the moralising I hope your family can make it all work Paws.Good luck.

Cheers guys,
yes the father is 18
As far as im aware (as im still not on speaking terms with her-harsh maybe but its my choice-end of) is that the little boy will be adopted once hes born, cosuin does have final decision/say in it-but thats the plan for the mo.