Can't remember anything so shocking and sick

Thats an awful story. I stopped reading after hearing he broke her back...It beggars belief as to how disgusting and demented some people can be towards their offspring and loved ones. He should be stuck in an empty cell with a bucket, no window and left to rot. He wont "suffer" in prision. Prision has ended up being really cushy at the expense of us - the taxpayers.

They get a roof over their head, TV,playstation, hot food, a bed, warmth etc. They even earn trips out for "good behaviour" and fear (of the officers/police themselves) of breaching their human rights. People like him should be blooming stripped of their human rights!

Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris

The only saving grace I can think of is that an end was put to all her suffering in the hands of these vile people, not fit to even be considered as parents

I totally agree.

Maria

Oh we're back on the mutilate and butcher offenders train again. How very enlightened.

Two issues here. Is this particular cretin a horrific individual who should never see the light of day again? You've got no arguments from me on that one. Further more - let's add a point of clarification here. I do feel a little silly pointing out to a lawyer who states "22 years is not enough", that this person HAS NOT been given a 22 year sentence. He's been given a life sentence. That's the law. As you know, under exceptional circumstances those with life sentences may be considered for release from prison. The judge has stated that in this case no consideration whatsoever can be given to exceptional circumstances until at least 22 years have passed. It doesn't mean he's out in 22 years, in all likelihood he'll spend the rest of his life in prison - which is the exact sentence the judge has given. Think Brady and Hindley - they got a life sentence for child murder too.

As for mutilation, butchery, execution, hunting for sport - I'm not going through this argument again, I'm sure you'll find something in the sig file below. But for people who are on their high horse about how evil this guy is, you good people sure are thinking up some horrific ways to dismember and execute a human being.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

As for mutilation, butchery, execution, hunting for sport - I'm not going through this argument again, I'm sure you'll find something in the sig file below. But for people who are on their high horse about how evil this guy is, you good people sure are thinking up some horrific ways to dismember and execute a human being.

Worthy of that title?

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

As for mutilation, butchery, execution, hunting for sport - I'm not going through this argument again, I'm sure you'll find something in the sig file below. But for people who are on their high horse about how evil this guy is, you good people sure are thinking up some horrific ways to dismember and execute a human being.

i dont think people are genuinely going to mutilate, kill for sport these sick people. its their way of getting their point across as to how angry they feel towards said "criminal", so talk of people getting on high horses seems a bit ironic to me

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

But for people who are on their high horse about how evil this guy is, you good people sure are thinking up some horrific ways to dismember and execute a human being.

he killed his daughter.........a human being who didnt choose to come into this world....a human being who soley looked at this man and the mother as her protectors/providers....the source of food, comfort, love, compassion etc etc.....

he killed her...brutally....

****ing right im on my high horse.......

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

Oh we're back on the mutilate and butcher offenders train again. How very enlightened.

Two issues here. Is this particular cretin a horrific individual who should never see the light of day again? You've got no arguments from me on that one. Further more - let's add a point of clarification here. I do feel a little silly pointing out to a lawyer who states "22 years is not enough", that this person HAS NOT been given a 22 year sentence. He's been given a life sentence. That's the law. As you know, under exceptional circumstances those with life sentences may be considered for release from prison. The judge has stated that in this case no consideration whatsoever can be given to exceptional circumstances until at least 22 years have passed. It doesn't mean he's out in 22 years, in all likelihood he'll spend the rest of his life in prison - which is the exact sentence the judge has given. Think Brady and Hindley - they got a life sentence for child murder too.

As for mutilation, butchery, execution, hunting for sport - I'm not going through this argument again, I'm sure you'll find something in the sig file below. But for people who are on their high horse about how evil this guy is, you good people sure are thinking up some horrific ways to dismember and execute a human being.

I do not advocate torture or anything like that, I just don't think he has any right to live anymore and I don't want to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds keeping him alive! Quick death, then forget the miserable little man ever lived.

Can't someone do exactly to him as he inflicted on his daughter?

Awful story, can't imagine how anyone could be so cruel. But like Maria said, at least she now wont suffer a lifetime of abuse - not that that justifies what he did.

She had the rest of her life to live and he gets 22 years? How does that work? Im pretty sure she would have passed 22 years of age, well maybe not in their house

Words of the grandfather.....
"I'm very angry. If I could have done something I would have. She was my granddaughter."

The judge also detailed other occasions in the weeks leading up to the murder in December last year when Howson "cruelly and deliberately assaulted Amy", leaving her with multiple fractures to her arms and legs.

where was the grandfather then?


I believe the mother is as wrong as the father... she stood by and allowed this to happen? should the anger etc not be directed at her? He will rot in hell for what he's done... yet she walks free, but as guilty as he for not protecting her daughter? May any other children she has or will have be removed from her... actually she should be sterilised straight away!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Dappa D

a result of his experiences?? sorry stu i agree with you on most things in this forum....

Whythankyouverymuch
Sorry I let you down this time I was just trying to express that the sentence he got was about as long/punishing as you can get in this country. I don't even want to begin to rationalise why he did it or how he justifies it to himself, that really gives me the creeps. I was just trying to express that his experiences seem to have left him not mentally normal.

As for her, I can't quite imagine what the lowest 1% for intelligence equates to.

Minimatt probably said much more eloquently what I was trying to.

How much of the 22 will he actually do??? He needs more time in there, a life for a life....