Hostage rescue at sea?

Originally Posted by lazymanc

the crew were delivering arms to a regime guilty of mass genocide and probably deserve anything they get...

Originally Posted by Scooby Drew

I'm not sure why anyone is worried about the crew of the ship, they are trafficking in arms and get what they get

Hmm. What about the crews of the British ships that transport the Royal Tank Regiment's vehicles around the world? What do they deserve to get?

Most pirates in that neck of the woods are ex-fishermen and despite their viciousness are not from trained military backgrounds.

Originally Posted by Tiger 55

Hmm. What about the crews of the British ships that transport the Royal Tank Regiment's vehicles around the world? What do they deserve to get?

Some of you may have heard a month or so ago about a Ukranian cargo ship which has been hijacked by Somali pirates.

I was commenting on the specific case mentioned at the begining of the thread, not in general.

[yorkie_chris]

Yes this cargo appears to be a bit dodgy from what's been said on wikipedia. However despite the "moral" aspects of selling weaponry. It is actually legal for one country to sell arms to another, or even companies, when they have permission of their governments. It is also legal for a ship to be contracted or chartered to carry said arms.

Obviously there's more to it than that, selling government won't sell to an unfriendly nation, or sell secret technology (or allow a company to export the same). And buying government must usually officially state that they will be the end users and not sell it on to any eejit with a briefcase full of cash. But we don't know what the hells going on with that ship! Arms exporter isn't going to say, Kenya "denies the allegation", maybe because they want their tanks, maybe because they're embarrased that someone supplied sellers with a dodgy end user statement... who knows?

So, might be an idea to find out who is selling this cargo to who before recommending a torpedo up the rse.

Originally Posted by Scooby Drew

I was commenting on the specific case mentioned at the begining of the thread, not in general.

Ah, righto. It's not Brits, it's probably not Jonny Foreigner in general, not even specifically Ukranians, it's just this specific crew.

You must know an awful lot more about them than I do.

Originally Posted by Tiger 55

Ah, righto. It's not Brits, it's probably not Jonny Foreigner in general, not even specifically Ukranians, it's just this specific crew.

You must know an awful lot more about them than I do.

Sure do

[yorkie_chris]

Even if you take a hippyish approach to international arms dealers, think that Johnny Jihad and his bunch of bloodthirsty pirates need turning into shark food and all of the crew have had an affair with your missus and daughter... Surely you got to note that ships are bloody expensive, so banging a hole in it probably isn't a good idea.

Originally Posted by Scooby Drew

Sure do

Go on then, tell me! Please, I'll be your best friend!

Originally Posted by Tiger 55

Go on then, tell me! Please, I'll be your best friend!

morethanmyjobsworthmate

[yorkie_chris]

So give us a clue... who do you work for?